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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear Drum brake removal Reply with quote

Friedpotatoes wrote:
up to 63 you will need the 36mm tool

64 and on you will need 46mm tool


So a torque dude 36mm will not work on 65 and up buses. Bummer. I have used my torque dude on my Thing to remove drums and wow how easy it was. I was hoping to use the same tool on my 67 bus as I need to do some brake work. I guess it is time to get a larger socket and some big old pipe.

Do they make a torque tool for the larger axle nuts?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:44 am    Post subject: Re: Rear Drum brake removal Reply with quote

amishman wrote:

Do they make a torque tool for the larger axle nuts?


You can make a 46mm adaptor for the 36mm torque tool with a 36mm nut welded to a 46mm socket. See the pix in this thread ....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=155573
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used the drilling method before. Just pick a notch in the castle nut, drill a small hole thru the nut (towards the center of the bus). Place the tip of a sharp chisel in the outer edge of the hole and give it a wack. The nut should split and then come right off. Down side to doing it this way is you have got to come up with another nut.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So lets add to this delima. most of these suggestions are fine and dandy for a tranny still mounted in the bus. What about a tranny thats out of a bus. Im having a bitch of a time getting leverage and obviously the shaft still spins without the resistance of a motor. Any suggestions besides drilling?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: puller Reply with quote

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I made this to get my drum off...works real good ..I got the idia how to make it from the real vw drum puller..I was going to make them but never got around to it..
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deepseeman wrote:
So lets add to this delima. most of these suggestions are fine and dandy for a tranny still mounted in the bus. What about a tranny thats out of a bus. Im having a bitch of a time getting leverage and obviously the shaft still spins without the resistance of a motor. Any suggestions besides drilling?


Find a 3-4 foot chunk of 2x1 channel and drill a couple of holes in it to allow you to bolt it to the drum, using lug bolts. This will keep things from spinning while you try to get the nut off. I think this is what you were asking about. If not, ignore this post and move on.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

get some pb spray and a propane torch... never lets me down.....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: puller Reply with quote

Brian_Mccue wrote:
I made this to get my drum off...works real good ..I got the idia how to make it from the real vw drum puller..I was going to make them but never got around to it..


How old is that picture or is that an old Pepsi can from the early 70's? Do you collect cans? Nice tool and welds. How did you make the cutouts?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I broke two Craftsman 1/2" drive breaker bars using a 4' cheater pipe. I finally had to have the kid at the corner shop take his impact to 'em which still took about 5 minutes (per side) of trigger to get 'em to come off.
Never needed a puller to get the drum off, tho.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I broke two Craftsman 1/2" drive breaker bars using a 4' cheater pipe. I finally had to have the kid at the corner shop take his impact to 'em which still took about 5 minutes (per side) of trigger to get 'em to come off.
Never needed a puller to get the drum off, tho.

Those swivel breaker bars really aren't made for this high torque application.
You need the kind which rides on a shaft, or a really heavy duty ratchet.
3/4" drive would be better as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brake drum removal tool kit consists of 5 - one foot lengths of chain, one Wal-Mart bottle jack, 10 wheel lugs, one beetle drum and Now one happy customer.

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What do you guy's think?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its great. does it work as well as I am hoping?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're a freaking genius
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sconord wrote:
Brake drum removal tool kit consists of 5 - one foot lengths of chain, one Wal-Mart bottle jack, 10 wheel lugs, one beetle drum and Now one happy customer.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Works perfectly!

Make sure your chains are all the same length. You have to get the setup in place, secure the jack to take up slack in the chains, let go, pump the jack and watch the drum slide off. As it was coming off, I tapped the drum with a hammer to help release the brake shoes that were stuck.


This was the cheapest and easiest puller made with parts that we all have laying around.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never been able to pump those bottle jacks on their side. Its a cool idea though no doubt.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeremyrockjock wrote:
I've never been able to pump those bottle jacks on their side. Its a cool idea though no doubt.



You have to have the pump and lever on the bottom. That way the hydrolic fluid goes to the pump. Look at the pics for what I mean.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is what I use, now.

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The bottom one I made right before I found the Snap-On version at a yard sale for $5. I used to borrow one from a mechanic friend of mine that was made for Ramblers. Now I have my own.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: cant get drum off Reply with quote

i'm doing the brakes on my 1965 beetle, all has gone smooth except the left rear drum will not come off. ive tried everything possible and it will still not come off. ive put a wheel puller on it and torqued it up to 280 ft lbs. then while it was torqed on i heated it with an oxyacediline torche, it was red hot and would still not come off. ive whacked it from every angle, no luck. the drum is no longer useable, but i need a way to get it off the axle, i'm sure the splines are no good and i will need a new axle also. this really sucks does anybody have any advice Question
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buy an impact wrench
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