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RIS Samba Member

Joined: December 18, 2003 Posts: 3039 Location: Youngstown, Ohio
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: Tunnel trans into '57 Single Cab... |
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Didn't find anything in a search... Working on a '57 Single Cab, putting a tunnel trans inplace of the split, what front mount choices do I have? Is there a rubber unit? or Is the solid adapter mount my only option?
Need some Big Nut brake backing plates too, PM me if anyone has a pair... _________________ Richard Sedoris - VW Performance & Machine - Youngstown, OH
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my65vert Samba Member

Joined: November 09, 2003 Posts: 6367 Location: Middleburg, Florida
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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I bought my adapter from wolfgang. Cost $42 shipped. I dont think the one you posted will work?
Had to do a little grinding on it so that it would clear the nose cone, it is not just a bolt on and go.
It is solid mount. _________________ OGJHC
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I'm starting to get little wafts of bus stink coming from the north. Something about the unique scent of drivers seat padding when it's glued together with mouse piss and shit that really gets me going... and I'm smelling it! Oh yeah! Time to start loading up the equipment. |
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RIS Samba Member

Joined: December 18, 2003 Posts: 3039 Location: Youngstown, Ohio
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Lind Samba Member

Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 7478 Location: idaho
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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does that mount come with earplugs? you will know exactly what I am talking about after you solid mount your tranny.
just don't hack out the stock mount, I am having trouble keeping up with demand for repair sections from junk buses. _________________ .
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RIS Samba Member

Joined: December 18, 2003 Posts: 3039 Location: Youngstown, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| Lind wrote: | | does that mount come with earplugs? you will know exactly what I am talking about after you solid mount your tranny. |
I have all solid mounts in my '63 Beetle, not too bad, I imagine a Bus is worse...
Hacking this '57 is not an option, hence why I asked the question in the first place... Know of any other options Lind? _________________ Richard Sedoris - VW Performance & Machine - Youngstown, OH
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RINC Samba Member

Joined: July 22, 2005 Posts: 3885 Location: .... an the road has become my bride
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: |
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The SC should not be loud.
My Standard with a solid rear mount was purdy damn noisey till I got most of the interior panels installed. _________________ This video makes me happy when I am sad.
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vw7266 Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: the point, ohio
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: |
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rich I think you should totally just cut an entire IRS section out of a late model bus and run it with a 3 or 6 rib tranny...much easier of course Im just kidding... but once you find out the real answer let me know...oh yea check with paul aka mynameismud he just did this to his 56 Kombi Im sure he could hook ya up with the goods... _________________ aka: Brad |
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roberto Samba Member

Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 753 Location: Lima, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: |
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I think paul has a 'mark rafferty built' tunnel type weld on mount.
I do not know how this affects the OG mounting of a split. If I can retain the option of both tranny down the road, I will definatly go this route.
Paul, Mark, anyone...? _________________ If you like REAL cheesecake, not that factory made crap, Click here. http://perfectcheesecakesystem.com/ |
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mynameismud Samba Member

Joined: October 23, 2002 Posts: 5941 Location: middle of a corn field
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Mark Rafferty's rubber mount - which I also did. You will have to cut the lower 1/2 of the old (doughnut-style) mount holder, so you can weld in a cross bar (which you will need to weld on 2 captive bolts on the backside- near torsion housing), these 2 bolts will be secured to the new rubber mount , which is bolted to your bus nose cone -hockey stick. Mock the nose cone , tranny strap up multiple times so the hockey stick will be centered and you won't have shifting issues (my fingers are still crossed). Its easier to use an extra empty tranny box to mock up - trust me...i didnt have one so I used my tranny...what a mother..
oh yeah- also REMEMBER to seal the paper gasket on the nose cone to tranny..(dont ask... ) PRIOR to bolting everything up.. _________________ For those, who wish to contribute to the Dave Mayes scholarship fund, please PM me, read here.
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roberto Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:35 am Post subject: |
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so would that ever affect mounting up the OG splitcase in the future?
Would you have to cut that back off? OR would it just go around it? _________________ If you like REAL cheesecake, not that factory made crap, Click here. http://perfectcheesecakesystem.com/ |
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mynameismud Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| roberto wrote: | so would that ever affect mounting up the OG splitcase in the future?
Would you have to cut that back off? OR would it just go around it? |
As far as I know you would have to reweld in the 1/2 of the ring that you cut off. (which could be a pain in the ass, since you may not be able to cut it off in 1 piece) _________________ For those, who wish to contribute to the Dave Mayes scholarship fund, please PM me, read here.
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captkirk Samba Member

Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 91 Location: Marblehead, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:11 am Post subject: |
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I've been checking old threads on this subject only because me and friend of mine are working on his 56' single cab and plan on the same thing. The way I see it, it's going to be one way or the other and not both without some welding. He chose to keep the original trans set up (for today anyway) and just go slower. Which leads to the next question....anyone good at split case tranny rebuilds?
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BeaterBarndoor Samba Member

Joined: December 15, 2000 Posts: 688 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| roberto wrote: | so would that ever affect mounting up the OG splitcase in the future?
Would you have to cut that back off? OR would it just go around it? |
i just took a look at this on my bus ,it is just my feeling/opinion that if you chose to go back to stock, you would need to cut the new plate mount out ,which shouldnt be too difficult, but i really think that with what is left of the original mount(only the lower half and about half the depth is trimmed off),should be enough "bite" onto the donut to stay in place when combined with how the donut secures to the nosecone and also locked into place with the mounting plate.
unfortunately i never was concerned about it enough to test fit the hacked mount by mounting the stock set up back in prior to welding my new plate in.
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mynameismud Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:16 am Post subject: |
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i should have used a longer mounting plate..mine is pretty close to the rubber mount- which makes me think...since everything is out i should redo it. _________________ For those, who wish to contribute to the Dave Mayes scholarship fund, please PM me, read here.
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: |
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I'll be putting a tunnel trans with RGB's in my 56 DD in a week or so and will photograph the whole process. _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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RIS Samba Member

Joined: December 18, 2003 Posts: 3039 Location: Youngstown, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys, that was what I was looking for. However, I talked to the guy I'm doing the work for today and he wants to be able to switch the crashbox and 36hp back in at a later time. So I'm going to with the solid adapter mount for now rather than start cutting... _________________ Richard Sedoris - VW Performance & Machine - Youngstown, OH
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nicko Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2004 Posts: 105 Location: Australia Blackhead
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: new methods |
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Is there any new moethods of installing a tunnel tranny in an early bus without having to cut it. I just want to put a tunnel tranny in while the split case box gets rebuilt
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57palm Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 139 Location: Victoria B.C. Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: tunnel in early bus |
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I too am putting a tunnel trans in my 57 standard. After looking at the available options I felt center mount (berg style) was the only way to go. Solid mount is ridiculously noisy, and I am not going to cut the stock mount period. Center mount is fairly easy to do and way stronger for those high torque/HP motors. No front mount needed at all and no irreversible mods. Nice and quite rubber mounts. The best all around.
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j.pickens Samba Member

Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 7729 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: new methods |
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| nicko wrote: | Is there any new moethods of installing a tunnel tranny in an early bus without having to cut it. I just want to put a tunnel tranny in while the split case box gets rebuilt
Cheers
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If its only for a short period, just get the solid mount.
It is noisier, but it works, and is cheap. _________________ Founder and Chairman Emeritus, ECMSAS
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thom Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:31 am Post subject: |
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I'm surprised nobody has made an adapter mount that incorporates some sort of rubber or polyurethane isolation.
I had a Bus Boys solid adapter in my '56 kombi back in the day - that mofo was loud inside! I quieted it down a bit by squeezing in a 1/4" piece of rubber between the trans and the mount. _________________ -Thom
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