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55reasons
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 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: Albert mirrors. |
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Need a set for my Oval. Found a site that sells the mirrors NEW, but they say they own the OG tooling, and there is no way to get the OG arms for them.
Anyone have any idea where I can get some NEW alberts?
How about a restorable set?
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53 0val
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| Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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I notice the guy is selling them because he's afraid of someone pulling on them. I have had them on my car for 6 years and do 10 shows a year and never had a single incident. Actually people put their hands behind their back when they get close to the mirrors----strange behavior.  |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| 53 0val wrote: | | Actually people put their hands behind their back when they get close to the mirrors----strange behavior. |
they see you standing there with your gun, that's why. |
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Yustrn
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| Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:50 pm Post subject: Alberts |
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Where did you find the glass?
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Thornton
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Alberts |
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| Yustrn wrote: | | Where did you find the glass? |
I have seen NOS mirrors for alberts, just the glass part, they pop up on Germany Ebay all the time
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55reasons
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| Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:52 am Post subject: |
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The new glass is readily available, but like I said the right "goosenecks", "arms", or whatever you choose to refer to them by are a different story. Im thinking that I could almost have a set milled out of Titanium and polish them myself for less than what the OG's are pulling. That is IF you call pull some originals.
Pic of the NEW ones from the guy who claims to "have exclusive rights" to the original production materials/machines:
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Erik G
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realistically it wouldn't be that hard to make a sand casting of a set and pour them out of aluminium.
Who is it that says he has exculsive rights to those. I seen them for $75 |
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53 0val
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| Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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You can buy the tooling but the international patent has run out. Last I heard was that Tony Moore at Wolfsberg West was looking to remanufacture the mirrors. It isn't rocket science and whoever does it will probably do alright selling them.  |
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Yustrn
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| Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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I have an original set!!! I'd LOAN them out wiht a deposit in return for a set or repops as payment
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El Guero
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: mirror |
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| anybody know of anyone selling just a drivers side i wanna run just the drivers side |
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55reasons
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| Erik G wrote: | realistically it wouldn't be that hard to make a sand casting of a set and pour them out of aluminium.
Who is it that says he has exculsive rights to those. I seen them for $75 |
http://www.bmwbobs.com/parts_accessories/classicbikes.html
I spent about 20 minutes trying to pry the info out of the guy. He said that they (BMW BOB's) have exclusive ownership and access to the original tooling and processes. I cannot confirm or deny that this is true, just what he told me.
I agree that a sand casting would be a cheap quick fix, but I've never been a big fan of cast aluminum. Where the arms approach the mirror and narrow out, I see a good chance of breakage with an aluminum casting. I guess it's better that the arm give way first though.
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thevwcollector
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| I have 7 extra alberts right now other than the NOS set on my car. But you know the deal about our town, nothing good around here! |
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55reasons
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| thevwcollector wrote: | | But you know the deal about our town, nothing good around here! |
I really don't feel like getting in to this again, but I want to address this from a logical standpoint.....
I never said there was nothing good around here. 
It seems that we're perpetuating a misunderstanding that I thought was already resolved. That's fine. That's your perogative. Just know that you stated that you "never saw me drive past your house", and I've accepted it. If you choose to dwell on the rest of it, there's nothing I can do about it.  No harm no foul.
You already stated that you and yours wont be selling me any parts as a result of our last issue. So what good does it do to tell me you have Alberts if I know you wont sell them to me? Moot point.
Good luck with your VW's, and have fun with your mirrors. If you ever decide you would be willing to sell them to me, just let me know. If I don't already have a set, maybe we'll talk. No sweat off my ass. I can get them elsewhere, and I'm in no hurry.
Thanks for the information though!
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