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kkirwin Samba Member

Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 426 Location: Billings, MT
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: Replace Clutch Cover aka Pressure Plate? |
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I'm rebuilding my motor and while I have it out I am looking at the clutch components to see what needs replacing. I know I am going to do the clutch disc, throw out bearing, and tranny mounts. Is it necessary to replace the clutch cover if it is in good condition? Or should it be resurfaced like the Flywheel? Thanks. _________________ 78 Riviera
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Cusser Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say if the clutch was not slipping, just replace the disc and the throw-out bearing. That's what I do. and the mounts, like you said.
If the clutch WAS slipping, then do all including resurfacing the flywheel. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 1994 Suburban http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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kkirwin Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds good, the clutch wasn't slipping so I think I'll keep it. Thanks for the advice. _________________ 78 Riviera
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kkirwin Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Is this a decent kit?
http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=KF22401
While searching I've read not to use Brazilian but others seem to indicate it is OK (It appears SACHs can be either Brazilian or German), if this is OK and at this price I thought I may as well do it all. Anybody currently running this kit? _________________ 78 Riviera
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DeMinimis I Eat Glue

Joined: November 16, 2004 Posts: 1739 Location: Down in the pig mine
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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My Sach (Brazilian) failed in my car. The PP side completely disintegrated. Stock motor. The flywheel side of the disc looked like new. It was weird.
As far as a PP, they aren't that expensive, even a good KEP stage I. Why not do it now and not worry about it? The springs/tangs may fatigue over time so unless you know the age of you PP, I'd suggest you just do it now. Of course, I'm always replacing things that don't need replacing. Preventative maintenance, I guess. _________________ Yes Virginia, beer can make you smarter. |
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kkirwin Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Yea, that's kind of what I decided. I thought about that kit but I think I am going to assemble my own since searching info on Brazilain clutch parts I found the throw-out bearings are not recommended. I've priced higher quality alternative parts cheaper than the complete Brazilain kit.
Clutch Disc - Valeo
Pressure plate - Amortex (Brazil) Not sure about KEP is that Kennedy?
Throw-Out Bearing - SACHS (German) _________________ 78 Riviera
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kkirwin Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Actually it is for my '73 SB which is why I thought I'd post over here instead of on the Bay forum. I did find in my research that LUK is considered the best and normally I always get the best parts but in this economy, well you know, we are all trying to save a buck or two. I always get confused when buying parts for these things because half the time I hear Brazilian is no-good and the other half the time it is. My goal right now is to get it back on the road and be reliable. JBugs says the Valeo disc is great quality and they won't sell Brazilian TO bearings but apparently the Braz pressure plates are OK so this will have to do for now. Later on when I'm back working full-time I'll look into a LUK kit if this setup isn't working out. Thanks guys for all your help. _________________ 78 Riviera
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Viande  Samba Member

Joined: August 14, 2008 Posts: 1436 Location: GA
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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I have had exceptional luck with the LUK clutch parts. Very high quality and they serve the majority of Auto manufacturers as well.
EDIT: I have been made aware of what is being sold here in the states is called "New Generation" from LUK. I will have to rescind my endorsement until I find out what that means. These kits are selling for less than wholesale from LUK Germany so I am suspicious of origin. _________________ Bobby
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