Clutch arm, spring TO bearing

chadv · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: Clutch arm, spring TO bearing

Alright guys just want to show you some pics and make sure everything is back together the right way... i guess my main concern when putting the clutch arm back on was if it was backwards or not. i had to replace the spring then also does the TO bearing look good i replaced that as well. thanks guys
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gt1953 · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject:

Looks all good to me. What is the condition of the clutch and rear main seal?
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glutamodo · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject:

The arm looks backwards to me. You can see the spot where the original spring contacted it.

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Also you need to spin those split axle boots around a little bit. They don't last long with the seam straight up in the air like that, every time they flex they pull on that seam. The book says horizontal to the rear, but I usally go a little ways up from that and aim them at the first stud above horizontal.

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And finally, that new design of Sachs throwout bearing has gotten some pretty poor reports of premature death.
One recent thread that mentions it: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=379149&

I won't use them, myself. If you have an old original one, you can try popping off the dust shield, soaking it in parts cleaner, and if balls are in decent shape, repack it with grease, put the dust sleeve back on and reuse it.

Bruce · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject:

Confirmed, you have the clutch arm on backwards. See the bottom tab that prevents the spring from slipping off the shelf of the trans case? That tab needs to be towards the spring, not like you've got it.
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chadv · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject:

thanks guy i was worried abut the arm being backwards... damn Sad

i pretty much killed myself putting that damn spring on but ive got the technique down though used a piece of wire wrapped around the spring and pulled really hard and then use a screw driver to kick it over the arm. anyways i got a whole kit from a local VW parts supplier. and how do we know how good that skf bearing really works, and better then the saches? if you guys really think the skf will be better i will go and get one.... what do you guys think?

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Viande · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject:

chadv · Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:38 am Post subject: skf bearing

Alright guys so i went to kragen today had to go to 2 differnt ones to get this bearing and what do you know it looks EXACLTY the same as the one that came out of the bug and the one i replaced it with... i dont want to have to change it again if it is the exact same thing so i will post pics and you guys tell me what you think let me know if i should use it or return it.
Thanks

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glutamodo · Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:15 pm Post subject:

Ouch! I was afraid of that. Yes it is the same. The previous poster who got an old-style Sachs bearing from a FLAPS got lucky and found a part that had been sitting on the shelf for years.

Personally, I'm going to try that Chinese (gasp) bearing next time I need to use a new one and can't clean up an old one and reuse it. I like the look of it better than that Sachs. Whether or not it will hold up, that's another thing.

Bobby (Viande) - did you ever import any of those LUK brand T/O bearings you were talking to me about in a PM a while back?

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dlxcoupe · Samba Member Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 918

This bearing came in an identical box as your #N1845. It is a much heaver design then the new crap Sachs makes today. I did check the place where I got this older style one and Inside the N1846 Box is another one exact as pictured. It is the last one and maybe the last of the well made breed. It could be Sachs is now selling the junk bearings and placing them in that box you just purchased. If you go with that thin style - let us know how long it lasts. Mine, of the thin style, lasted 600 miles.

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gerg · Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject:

I have run that style on my bus for over 4 years . . . several cross country trips, 2276 . . .
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chadv · Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject:

thanks for your help motor is hopefully going in tom didnt have help today and this is my first time so i wanted to wait... ill let you guys know how the TO bearing works

dlxcoupe · Samba Member Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 918

Just a note. I took another look at the box the N1845 (heavier style bearing) that I received at the FLAPS. The Label of this TSF bearing box says. "Contains quality products manufactured or purchased by SKF. 72-Made in USA. I wonder if they outsourced them to Sachs who now has changed the design? Could you check your SKF box label and see if it says USA? thanks..
From This

TO this.. In a box with the same part number?

chadv · Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject:

sorry guys i needed the cash so i already took that TO bearing back.... putting in the motor tom. hopefully. Im nervous and i hope the problem is cured if not i will no be very happy.

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