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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 9:07 pm    Post subject: not a great day Reply with quote

Not a great day...didn't get a lot done on my rail. Got home from work about 2 hours later than usual. Then, I had to weld on my buddy's trailer for another 2 hours. Then a heck of a thunderstorm hit us here in northern Ohio, which tore just about all the vinal siding off the back of my garage and knocked out power for about 3 hours. But
I did manage to get my steering gearbox, shaft, and steering wheel installed. Still waiting on my tie rods to get here.
I hope tomorrow is a better day.


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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Brian Looks Great. I wish I had used 2 stage paint.
BTW what are you using for rear shock mounts???
Also I like the wheel tire combo.
I know what its like to what to look at a project from outside
the shop.
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

535mcginnis535 wrote:
Hey Brian Looks Great. I wish I had used 2 stage paint.
BTW what are you using for rear shock mounts???
Also I like the wheel tire combo.
I know what its like to what to look at a project from outside
the shop.


The upper rear shock mounts are already welded in place. I was using air shocks, and will use them again, only in a different length. These were needed to help support the weight of the V-6 engine. The lower mounts will be bolted thru the vertical support on the new rear trailing arms. I wasn't looking for tons of rear travel, but anything additional is better than the stock setup.
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 9:59 pm    Post subject: More stuff Reply with quote

From bad storms yesterday to being sick as a dog today. Can't seem to win. Sad But I managed to get my new 22MM master cylinder primed, painted and installed. Also vinal painted my bowden tube and painted the bracket for the tube.

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: a bit of engine cleaning Reply with quote

Started to tear down some of the engine components and get them cleaned up and repainted. Got the engine block and pulleys done in hi-temp flat black, and the intake done in hi-temp aluminum. still have to do the carb and alternator, but it's lookin good so far! Smile

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:15 pm    Post subject: More work done. Reply with quote

That storm that crushed my area in northern Ohio really took it's toll. Just about everything in my garage is covered in dust now, and the lightning that struck my shop chimney also fried my old wireless card. Special thanks to my wife for getting the wireless all fixed up for me again! Very Happy Vehicles I can work on....NOT computers! Wink

Tonight, I did a few odds and ends, like weld on the rear brake hose support brackets to the new trailing arms and got them painted (shoulda thought of that before I installed them Embarassed ), and got my battery box and battery mounted up front (both pictured below). The box looks big...because it is. I'm running a commercial battery since I plan to be drawing a lot of power (and I just happened to have a commercial battery laying around). Dual electric fans for the radiator, full lights all the way around, and quite a few other odds and ends are sure to draw the juice. Better to have overkill in the power department, rather than need it and not have enough.

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I also set my Holley valve covers and Edlebrock air cleaner in place on the engine (also pictured below) just to see how it would look. I think I need to paint the carburator, as it stands out like a sore thumb on an otherwise clean engine! Shocked I was thinking of painting the carb red, to match the valve covers and chassis. If not, maybe black...or silver, like the intake. Any thoughts on the carb color are welcome! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was thinking of painting the carb red, to match the valve covers and chassis. If not, maybe black...or silver, like the intake. Any thoughts on the carb color are welcome!

Red would be neat, but I dont think I'd paint it red unless I painted the aircleaner red too. I dont know, this is really not even worth two cents, but I dont think I'd sandwhich the red in between silver and silver. Nice build
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Odds and ends Reply with quote

Barentine and riNR, thanks for the input on the carb color. Silver it will be! Always nice to have other folks opinions on things (especially when I'm on the fence)! Very Happy

Tonights accomplishments aren't too exciting. Confused Just some mundane things that had to get done (and there are a LOT of those!)But I got my front brake lines bent up and installed. Installed my Bowden tube and clutch cable, installed my front seat RJS 4 point harnesses, and cleaned, primed and painted my alternator/pulley setup and installed it on the engine.

Still have to make and install the rear steel brake lines to tie in from the calipers to the rubber brake lines, which I'll probably knock out tomorrow, along with some other things. But I'm chompin' at the bit to get this engine installed in the chassis. Very Happy Which I plan to do by the end of the weekend.

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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:49 pm    Post subject: Brake lines installed and bled! Reply with quote

I finished making my rear brake lines from the calipers to the rubber lines mounted on the trailing arms. My son had the easy job of sitting in the driver seat, pushing the pedal to help me bleed them! Smile

This pic shows the caliper (at the lower left of the pic), and the rubber line port (in the upper right of the pic) that I had to make the lines for on both sides in the rear. Looks like I'm gonna have to pull my wheels and get that surface rust off my rotors! Embarassed
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Starting the line run from the rubber line port on the trailing arm (gotta love bulk brake line!):
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Running the obstacle course to avoid things that will rub the brake lines:
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The line installed. I have to get a set of brake line retainers, one for each side in the rear. These will mount on the top, flat surface of the trailing arm above the hub (just beside the rotor) where the brake line runs over the top of it. The retainers will keep the line from wanting to bounce up and down due to its unsupported length.
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Now that I got this thing to stop on it's own, I can't wait to get it to MOVE on it's own! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ditch that airfilter its bad news. i sucked the filter down my carb on my old hotrod. thay look good but thats it. JUNK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nitrous nut wrote:
ditch that airfilter its bad news. i sucked the filter down my carb on my old hotrod. thay look good but thats it. JUNK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
. X2 those filters will destroy a good motor.
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love what you're doing with the engine ! !

Funny though . . . your Buick engine looks a lot like my Volkswagen engine . . .

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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:45 am    Post subject: V6 rebuild Reply with quote

Awesome, awesome build thread!!! Just my 2 cents, but I agree about that airfilter. On my buggy, I got a racing beat(www.racingbeat.com) air filter that works great for offroad. It's a split top and bottom with a two stage filter(outer oiled foam, standard paper filter inner). Looking great, keep us posted.
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you haven't dont the carb yet, I would blast it w/baking soda and clear coat it.

Looking great so far. X4 on the air filter, had them on a drag/street car and they would distort and suck all kinds of dirt in them. Maybe ok on the street, but definately not off road.
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear ya loud and clear on the air filter guys! I guess I should have made it clear that I intended to use that Pro Flo air cleaner strictly for street use ONLY. Embarassed I know there are some who wouldn't even use it for street use, but I intend to add a small void steel mesh to the factory Edelbrock suppport (pictured below):

The standard support:
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This is the steel mesh I was going to add and tack weld into place all around the base of the standard support just to prevent any chance of the foam element being drawn into the carb (street use only):
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It's too bad I can't find an outerwear for the Pro Flo air cleaner set up so I could use it off-road. But it really doesn't matter, I already have my 14 inch off-road air filter setup from last year ready to go! And I may just end up running this setup full time instead:
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Thanks for all the input, support, and compliments guys! And good lookin' out for the welfare of my engine! Very Happy I ALWAYS welcome anyone else's thoughts and/or ideas. A different perspective can be a good thing!

TC/TeamEvil....I think our engines may actually be Evil Twins! Laughing

DONT....Good tip on the carb idea, but I don't know of anyone near me who does soda blasting. I wish I did, I would like to see how that would look. I planned to install the engine this weekend, so I was just gonna paint the carb silver to match the intake tonight, so it will be dry for the install this weekend.
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a hell of a lot of motor for that tranny!


Rail looks really clean.... props
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is a hell of a lot of motor for that tranny!


Rail looks really clean.... props


Thanks for the props shred! It is A LOT of motor, which is why I won't pound on it at all on the street. On the sand, tire slippage was my friend Very Happy and kept the tranny from receiving any kind of shock load, which allowed it to survive behind this engine. I'm sure one good shock load on the pavement would probably roast it. So I'll bide my time for now...take it easy on it, and eventually upgrade to a Bus tranny when the funds are available to get a BUILT Bus tranny, one that I won't have to 'baby' so much. It's still fun for now!
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the pics of my fuel tank and electric fuel pump installation.

First, the tank mounts got bolted down to the crossmember:
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Then the tank got installed in the tank mounts:
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Then, I bolted my electric fuel pump under the tank crossmember, and ran the feed lines from the tank to the pump, and then from the pump out to the "engine bay" area.
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Looking forward to getting the engine into the chassis this weekend! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A soda blaster takes about two minutes to make. All you need are a compressed air source, and air gun with a small tip and a short piece of clear plastic hose. Arm & Hammer baking soda works very well to clean up the outside of your carbs. There are pictures here on The Samba, just look for media blaster.
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