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Batan Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2003 Posts: 1637 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:21 pm Post subject: Snow Tires, undercoating, mud flaps... winter topics. |
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Well, I know it's only September, don't get depresses! lol But my Hankook RA08s are coming as we speak and I was wondering what does everybody run in the snow? What's the best all season bus tire in the snow?
Too late for me I know, but I think Hankooks are not all that great. I was thinking buying a set of those rubber band chains to keep in the bus. I won't be driving in extreme snow conditions I don't think but it might see some flakes here and there... _________________ '69 Riviera Bay
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skid Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2009 Posts: 1329 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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It only snows here maybe once a year and its mostly slush. Why worry? _________________ '71 Westfalia |
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Batan Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2003 Posts: 1637 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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skid wrote: |
It only snows here maybe once a year and its mostly slush. Why worry? |
Haha, yeah I know. I'm not worried, but I might want to go somewhere in the winter. For example, going to Tofino in late January. Plus snow is fun to drive in! _________________ '69 Riviera Bay
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ned Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2004 Posts: 1574 Location: Arroyo Grande Ca.
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Whats there to do in Tofino in the winter? |
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wihr Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 344 Location: PORTLAND, OR
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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I drive my bus to Mt. Hood for winter night skiing most weekends. 120 mile round trip to an altitude of 4,000 feet. We get a little more snow than Vancouver, but we also get a lot of black ice on the road. I use studded tires all around as when I only used them in the rear I once got the bus sideways at 50 miles per hour when I hit some ice. I recovered - the other five cars did not. If studs are legal in B.C. they sure help with ice. For deep snow I use chains which are a real pain to install with the very narrow clearance at the swing arm. _________________ WIHR
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oorwullie Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2003 Posts: 2365 Location: fribourg,switzerland
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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ned wrote: |
Whats there to do in Tofino in the winter? |
or any other time! i only went there once. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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If you plan on doing anything with your bus after september around here you better get familiar with this stuff soon.
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Tuna Tim Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2005 Posts: 181 Location: Saddlerock, Aurora, Colorado
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I run with a set of Nankangs (185R14C) most of the year in the Denver area. But, when the snow starts to fall I pull the rears off and replace them with Yokohama ICEGuards (205/70R14). The improvement in snow performance is modest. The improvement in ice performance is substantial.
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Batan Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2003 Posts: 1637 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
If you plan on doing anything with your bus after september around here you better get familiar with this stuff soon.
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Well, it's gonna get driven. But I barely drive and it won't see much of the road at all when there's salt on them. However, as I mentioned, it might see a trip to Tofino(for example) that involves a mountain pass. Last year I took the GTI and there was no snow... but it's a gamble.
I've seen a couple of Hankook ratings somewhere online that they don't rate good in the snow. One of things I was wondering was if they don't rate well compared to a snow tire or compare to an average all-season.
ned wrote: |
Whats there to do in Tofino in the winter? |
Absolute serenity(and huge waves!)...
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TRN9 Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2006 Posts: 309 Location: Where its rainy
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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In my experience the Hankooks tread fills easily with snow, creating a "bald tire" _________________ '72 Panel ~ B-Bus
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Gawd I hope you're wearing pants in that pic
The highways dept. salts or applies brine on any day when frost is forecast, not just for snow. Unless the roads are absolutely dry your bus will get salty, even a little splash creeps into the seams and lower extremities and attracts moisture causing rust year round, not good for a clean bus like yours.
Just sayin, an ounce of prevention............ _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Esher127 Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2010 Posts: 607 Location: Staunton, VA
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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TRN9 wrote: |
In my experience the Hankooks tread fills easily with snow, creating a "bald tire" |
The idea of a snow tire is the have as many sipes as possible to trap snow. Nothing sticks to snow like snow, and a tire that self cleans is BAD in the snow. I spent one winter with non-siped BFG Mud-Terrains on my Jeep and it was a white knuckle experience of the bad kind.
In short, if it fills full of snow and doesn't fling it out at speed, that should be a very good thing. _________________ 1970 Westfalia Pop-Top |
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Batan Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2003 Posts: 1637 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Gawd I hope you're wearing pants in that pic
The highways dept. salts or applies brine on any day when frost is forecast, not just for snow. Unless the roads are absolutely dry your bus will get salty, even a little splash creeps into the seams and lower extremities and attracts moisture causing rust year round, not good for a clean bus like yours.
Just sayin, an ounce of prevention............ |
Ooh, good info! I know they salt for frost but I didn't know exactly what the rules are. I can keep it out of salted parts/times no problem. I know I haven't driven the GTI(I sold last May) in the salt at all but did end up in a snowstorm once in Burnaby coming back late from a friend's place. But you still end up sometime in the snow and such.
So, speaking of which, that rust check good stuff? Or is it something arbitrary you posted to make a point? I sure can spray something under the bus before they start salting. I prefer something that is easy to apply. My GTI that is originally from Montreal had this greasy stuff sprayed underneath(with a product/shop sticker in the door jamb identifying it)... I'm assuming it's effective but it was soooo messy! But man, this salt here is nothing compared to East... check this out, most of that is not dirt!
No wonder they have no AC VWs left there!
P.S. I am on Beach Ave downtown Vancouver so we rarely see salt or frost here. _________________ '69 Riviera Bay
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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The rust check is about as good as it gets, Canadian tire sells it as well as the pink lable stuff for inside panels and cavities (runny), the green lable is much thicker.
Search up a thread by Rubberduck about his experience with applying it. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Batan Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:01 am Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
The rust check is about as good as it gets, Canadian tire sells it as well as the pink lable stuff for inside panels and cavities (runny), the green lable is much thicker.
Search up a thread by Rubberduck about his experience with applying it. |
Awesome, thanks.
(wearing wet suit in the pic btw!) _________________ '69 Riviera Bay
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wyomingriviera Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 384 Location: Vee-Tee
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:40 am Post subject: |
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I really like these when I go out onto the snowpacked wyoming roads:
They're the proper size/weight range Cooper SRM II. They are M&S, rated, and have worked really well. I don't drive the bus much in the winter 'cause the heat kinda sucks, but on warmer sunny days she'll come out. Compared to the POS sears tires that were on there, these rule! _________________ '77 Rivi 2.0 T2 GD
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baumer99 Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2008 Posts: 60 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I run Continental Vanco Vikings.
I just put them on for a work trip to Northern BC/Yukon over the next couple of weeks ~6,000 km or so. Could probably wait another six weeks here on the coast. Since I got them, there is no going back to all seasons in the winter.
This photo is from last year in early November doing the same thing. Notice a green can of something??
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boxxcar Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2010 Posts: 192 Location: Kraft Durch Freudeville NJ
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:10 am Post subject: a little more off top |
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busdaddy wrote: |
If you plan on doing anything with your bus after september around here you better get familiar with this stuff soon.
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I'm just setting up to run the winter. Those RustCheck Prods are maybe only on shelves way up there? I'd like to get an innerpanel spray into the kit. but don't know if it's distributed here in the Midlantic east coast.
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wampe Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:50 am Post subject: |
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We are not far from B.C. It doesn't snow very much up here. I think the idea for chains is a good one. If it does snow you will be covered. |
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fusername Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2006 Posts: 2897 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: |
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bfg all terrain K/Os, lock this thread your hunt is over. _________________ [email protected]
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