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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:47 pm    Post subject: 73 heater blows cold Reply with quote

I have a 73 thing with the stock gas heater. Until recently, the heater worked great, then it wouldn't turn on. So i flipped the reset switch and it worked again. Then on Sat it wouldn't turn on again. So again I flipped the reset switch. Now it blows but the air blows cold. Any ideas? I'm not really familiar with this heater and haven't attempted any diagnostics. Where to start?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When you hear the fan go on do you hear the fuel pump? (ticking)

When's the last time you pulled the plug and cleaned it?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick pic to show where the plug is and the pump under the gas tank. I would guess either one of the two reasons Crofty mentioned.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having good voltage at the unit is important. Clean the connection and the fuses. I have learned to never fire the unit up until the car had been started and run for at least a half minute so that the battery voltage gets a chance to build up. I also try and remember to turn the unit off a minute or two before I kill the engine. Seems to like to fire off better the next time when I do that.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LMAO....

Just today mine did not fire. So, with that being said, I will post my repair solution when I find it. Laughing Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:16 pm    Post subject: heaters Reply with quote

Yeah these heaters work great when they work,

I guess we're working them abit more than their used to, esp if theyve sat for years.

CHeck the fuel pump, make sure it's clicking, about every second it should click and pump fuel to the heater.

Check the "spark plug' for the heater, pull it and clean it gently with a wire wheel or whatever you can, JUST BE CAREFUL not to break it or grind it into dust.

It could be a few things causing the heater not to work, check out MAN130's link for his heater fix, I've put a bit in there myself, it may be somthing stupid then it could be anything.

There's been a lot of heater requests for help, Man130's was a decent "recent" post, I've found others but he helpd me fix mine.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You got a battery charger? There is a fuse in the unit - an 8 amp (I am going by memory) when I put the positive lead (from the battery charger - other lead on ground) on one side of the fuse the heater sped up fuel pump was audible (tick tick tick) and when I hit the other side it was still slow, no audible tick. Found the fuse was corroded cleaned it and the contacts and it works good now.

The next time it failed was a corroded connector at the heater switch (the main Voltage in)

The fuel pump needs good strong 12v to work.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a follow up on my BN-4 issue. It was just the spark plug that was a bit mucked up. So, I did a quick cleaning and put it back in. HEAT!

Did you figure you issue out yet?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Van-go108 wrote:
Just a follow up on my BN-4 issue. It was just the spark plug that was a bit mucked up. So, I did a quick cleaning and put it back in. HEAT!

Did you figure you issue out yet?


Not yet.

Fan works, pump is clicking. There is a gas odor.
If I let it run a few minutes, eventually the safety breaker will flip and turn it off. I can flip the switch and it will turn on again, but the air never gets warm.

I've cleaned the plug (wasn't really dirty), checked for loose connections, and checked the one fuse I could see. Not sure what to try next.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check to make sure you are getting a spark from the coil, you may need to clean your points.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just discovered the heater works great with the engine running.
According to the trouble shooting diagram, my battery has insufficient voltage. I'll have the battery checked.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dborell wrote:
I just discovered the heater works great with the engine running.
According to the trouble shooting diagram, my battery has insufficient voltage. I'll have the battery checked.


I don't believe the coil is correctly matched with the application here. It should be able to work on less than 12 volts so it would fire up readily when cold and the engine isn't running. In my experience it just doesn't work that way. Sometimes maybe but not every time, this was true even when the units were new.
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