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Critter1
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Wow, this project is coming along nicely. Awesome to see a rendering become closer to reality!
Just an observation: I noticed you welded up the front heater vents, but left the rear kick panel holes open.. Do you plan on running a heater? Would be cleaner without them if not.
Keep up the good work!
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jaransonT3
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| RennyRB wrote: | Wow, this project is coming along nicely. Awesome to see a rendering become closer to reality!
Just an observation: I noticed you welded up the front heater vents, but left the rear kick panel holes open.. Do you plan on running a heater? Would be cleaner without them if not.
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Not sure If I am going to run heater boxes or not. Might eventually, but not right away....heck it won't even have side glass. Heater not much use at that point. 
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| jaransonT3 wrote: | | RennyRB wrote: | Wow, this project is coming along nicely. Awesome to see a rendering become closer to reality!
Just an observation: I noticed you welded up the front heater vents, but left the rear kick panel holes open.. Do you plan on running a heater? Would be cleaner without them if not.
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Not sure If I am going to run heater boxes or not. Might eventually, but not right away....heck it won't even have side glass. Heater not much use at that point. |
Rob and I both kept the heater systems in our topless cars. It might seem redundent, but on a cool evening it helps a little. 
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jaransonT3
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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One of things I needed to do before getting the rear fenders fit and welded on was seam seal and close up the cooling airboxes under the fenders.
Get the seam sealer in there...
Got the filler panels cut-out and test fit...
and got them both fully welded in place...
And here is a composite shot looking down through the air intake area...
Tomorrow I can start fitting up the rear fenders!
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Looks good John. That should help direct the air into the engine. You probably could have added a deflector plate inside the box, to direct the air downward to the rear, while you still had it open. I know my 71 Notch has a 2 inch lip on top and on the bottom of the duct (partly for water control), but to also disturb or direct the airflow (I think, but I'm not sure). I haven't looked inside my 65 Notch to know IF it got them too, but the ductwork on it is different that the 71 (it's still inside the trunk though). 
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jaransonT3
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| Bobnotch wrote: | | Looks good John. That should help direct the air into the engine. You probably could have added a deflector plate inside the box, to direct the air downward to the rear, while you still had it open. I know my 71 Notch has a 2 inch lip on top and on the bottom of the duct (partly for water control), but to also disturb or direct the airflow (I think, but I'm not sure). I haven't looked inside my 65 Notch to know IF it got them too, but the ductwork on it is different that the 71 (it's still inside the trunk though). |
Couldn't have hurt, but I doubt it would be necessary given the big old fan sucking air into the engine...
More progress today...
Started out stripping the old paint off the rear fenders. Decided now would be a good time to fill in the dimple for the stock bumpers...
Cut out the dimple...
Cut out a patch, shaped it, and tacked it in...
Got it fully welded and ground down...
Then decided to see how the fender fits to the body with the front fenders and doors lined up....
Not too bad, but the rear of the fender is a bit higher then I had it before when I get the body lines lined up and straight. Going to have some filler panels to make...
But the body lines line up pretty nice...
Here is a better shot of the space I need to fill up...
and finally a shot of the other other fender just set in place...
I also set the front bumper in place to check for fit. I am going to have to modify the brackets some. It sits too high on the body when I get it parallel to the rocker. Going to add some material to it also to get the gaps to the body all uniform. Didn't get any picture of it tonight. Will do so tomorrow.
Good progress...
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| jaransonT3 wrote: | | Bobnotch wrote: | | Looks good John. That should help direct the air into the engine. You probably could have added a deflector plate inside the box, to direct the air downward to the rear, while you still had it open. I know my 71 Notch has a 2 inch lip on top and on the bottom of the duct (partly for water control), but to also disturb or direct the airflow (I think, but I'm not sure). I haven't looked inside my 65 Notch to know IF it got them too, but the ductwork on it is different that the 71 (it's still inside the trunk though). |
Couldn't have hurt, but I doubt it would be necessary given the big old fan sucking air into the engine...
More progress today...
Started out stripping the old paint off the rear fenders. Decided now would be a good time to fill in the dimple for the stock bumpers...
Then decided to see how the fender fits to the body with the front fenders and doors lined up....
Not too bad, but the rear of the fender is a bit higher then I had it before when I get the body lines lined up and straight. Going to have some filler panels to make...
But the body lines line up pretty nice...
Here is a better shot of the space I need to fill up...
and finally a shot of the other other fender just set in place...
I also set the front bumper in place to check for fit. I am going to have to modify the brackets some. It sits too high on the body when I get it parallel to the rocker. Going to add some material to it also to get the gaps to the body all uniform. Didn't get any picture of it tonight. Will do so tomorrow.
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Definitely good progress.  Make sure you put the trunk lid back on before you fill those rear gaps. Otherwise, you'll be back in there trimming some of it back out. 
Body lines look good though. You're still using the OE screws to hold/locate the fenders right. It'll make it easier to set your location if you do, and besides, you want to seal the back side of those fenders before you weld them on. Needless to say, I've thought about doing that myself a few times. But after doing the T-34, it sure would have been nice IF they came off. 
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jaransonT3
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Definitely good progress. Make sure you put the trunk lid back on before you fill those rear gaps. Otherwise, you'll be back in there trimming some of it back out. |
Perimeter of the deck lid is pretty well set by the body. As long as I don't violate that perimeter I should be all set with the lid. I will still trial fit it all, though.
| Quote: | | Body lines look good though. You're still using the OE screws to hold/locate the fenders right. It'll make it easier to set your location if you do, and besides, you want to seal the back side of those fenders before you weld them on. Needless to say, I've thought about doing that myself a few times. But after doing the T-34, it sure would have been nice IF they came off. |
Nope. The rear fenders are getting welded on. I looked at keeping them bolt on, but re-creating the joint at the new location and the change in length was too problematic. I will get the metal work done on the fenders and seal the backside of them before I weld them on. Final body work will be after they are welded on.
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| jaransonT3 wrote: | | Bobnotch wrote: |
Definitely good progress. Make sure you put the trunk lid back on before you fill those rear gaps. Otherwise, you'll be back in there trimming some of it back out. |
Perimeter of the deck lid is pretty well set by the body. As long as I don't violate that perimeter I should be all set with the lid. I will still trial fit it all, though.
| Quote: | | Body lines look good though. You're still using the OE screws to hold/locate the fenders right. It'll make it easier to set your location if you do, and besides, you want to seal the back side of those fenders before you weld them on. Needless to say, I've thought about doing that myself a few times. But after doing the T-34, it sure would have been nice IF they came off. |
Nope. The rear fenders are getting welded on. I looked at keeping them bolt on, but re-creating the joint at the new location and the change in length was too problematic. I will get the metal work done on the fenders and seal the backside of them before I weld them on. Final body work will be after they are welded on. |
Ok, just thought I'd check on the trunk lid. I only say that, because that area starts getting tight when you have a stationary part and a moving part together there for a section about 8 inches long (Notch trunk lid on a Squareback).
I knew you were welding them on, but was aking IF you were using a couple of screws to help locate the fenders. Karmann did that in a couple of places on a t-34 too. It helps keep things in place when you tack stuff on too. I try to do that when I'm replacing metal sections on stuff, as clamps can slip.  I know I used a bunck of self tappers when I did the front clip on the t-34 for Russ. It also helped some when I replaced the 1/2 quarter.
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this is going to be awesome , its a completely different car!
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out of a see of skittles you are certinly going to stand out! i am 100% in love with the direction you are going in! i applaud you sir
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OK...The Rambler dash option has been bugging me lately so today I decided to strip the dash down to just the sheetmetal and do a little mock-up. I had to cut the dash in half in order to get it to sit close to correctly in the car. Will ultimately need to remove about 8" from the center if I go this route.
Anyway...here are some comparison pictures between the new proposed Rambler Dash and the current 49-50 Ford Dash.
So which do you like better? Any and all opinions welcome. I think I want to change it out to the new proposed dash. I think the lines fit the car better....
Decisions....decisions....decisions...
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I like the Rambler dash better as it is a greater departure from the stock to me!
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| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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I actually like the current Ford dash much better. It is way more stripped down and less busy than the Rambler dash. Plus with the single gauge opening it looks more "sled" style. Just my two cents...
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I'm not feelin the rambler dash, what you have is more in line with the styling of the car already.
Does the rambler dash come with one of the big sweeping speedo needles?
Its gonna be an awesome cruiser when its done.
I would love to be in the passenger seat and watch the faces of people when you drive by. It's funny enough watching people when we drive the square, there are only 2 type 3's is the city so it's rare but that is gonna be crazy.
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This thread and build are ridiculous. I don't own a type 3 but this makes me want one built like the one you're building. Keep it up. You are a freakin mastermind.
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