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Hugo Stiglitz Samba Member

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RennyRB Samba Textbook Gangsta

Joined: August 10, 2006 Posts: 970 Location: Torrance
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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What's with the cats? Totally stock engine map to be used here?
(unless those are silencers/resonators, in which case this can be ignored) _________________ 1967 Squareback |
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67dubcab Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2009 Posts: 102 Location: sebastopol C.A
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:52 pm Post subject: porsche powered mid-engine double cab build |
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| Hugo Stiglitz wrote: | | I'm glad to see this is still in the works! Can't wait to see the final product. I really dig the shift knob made out of walnut and aluminum. |
Big project build, need much work, take much time.
Thanks, the shift knob was a fun little project as it was easy to finish (umm, needs more coats of finnish, damn)! _________________ Porsche powered mid-engine double cab build
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67dubcab Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2009 Posts: 102 Location: sebastopol C.A
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject: porsche powered mid-engine double cab build |
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| RennyRB wrote: | What's with the cats? Totally stock engine map to be used here?
(unless those are silencers/resonators, in which case this can be ignored) |
Yes, they are Magnaflow universal cats.
I use the D.C as my daily and put about eight thousand or so miles a year on it so I consider the the cleaner exhaust a plus part of the engine swap.
The overall exhaust design is very different than the stock 911 so I will get a baseline dyno run to the custom chip guy Steve Wong to optimize the air fuel ratio.
I am hoping the new exhaust will free up 10+ h.p. from the otherwise stock 3.2. (even with the cats). _________________ Porsche powered mid-engine double cab build
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RennyRB Samba Textbook Gangsta

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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Sounds good
Proper tuning is the way to go, and good on you to reduce pollution.
Can't wait to see more updates, this is one of my favorite builds. _________________ 1967 Squareback |
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LeviMan2001 Samba Post Whore

Joined: April 11, 2009 Posts: 3918 Location: Alaska
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:15 am Post subject: Re: porsche powered mid-engine double cab build |
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I'm getting that old "aaaahhhh this is going to be so badasss!" feeling again. I dig the cats, sometimes people don't realize how little they actually restrict the flow. I really like how everything is just 1 step above factory in quality with all the fabrication. Best way to go for a daily driver!  _________________ http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=366056 - My '73 Super Build. 2332cc, 16" Fuchs |
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Twisted Minis Samba Member

Joined: December 24, 2007 Posts: 95 Location: Windsor, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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One side almost done, other side is a little more intricate.
A little more tweaking and I can weld the mid pipe to the muffler and cat, and then start on a crossover, or H-pipe. _________________ If you can find it cheaper, I can fix it. |
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Twisted Minis Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a little disappointed the exhaust looks so simple in the pictures, but there are a lot of angles you don't really see. Its not just straight with some bends. Almost every bend is off axis from the one before, especially on the PS. _________________ If you can find it cheaper, I can fix it. |
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dirtsandwich Samba Member

Joined: April 25, 2008 Posts: 639 Location: Boise, Idaho
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Twisted Minis wrote: | | I'm a little disappointed the exhaust looks so simple in the pictures, but there are a lot of angles you don't really see. Its not just straight with some bends. Almost every bend is off axis from the one before, especially on the PS. |
I am not disappointed about anything in this build. I want one. _________________ 71 Squareback
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Twisted Minis Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Basically I am just disappointed with the camera pics right now. I need to get the DSLR out of storage. You can't see much detail in these, it looks much better in person. _________________ If you can find it cheaper, I can fix it. |
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vdub8 Samba Member

Joined: February 24, 2007 Posts: 111 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| Twisted Minis wrote: | | I'm a little disappointed the exhaust looks so simple in the pictures, but there are a lot of angles you don't really see. Its not just straight with some bends. Almost every bend is off axis from the one before, especially on the PS. |
Looking closely at the last picture, the passenger side exhaust shows just how much off axis fabrication this exhaust run entails.
Amazing design, engineering and fabrication! Looking forward to more
BTW, I had an 89 944 S2 for a short time and I loved the gearbox. I regret selling that car. _________________ My 67 build thread:
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Twisted Minis Samba Member

Joined: December 24, 2007 Posts: 95 Location: Windsor, CA
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Here are the latest shots. I am basically done with the exhaust now aside from the H-pipe. I needed to finish each side before I can tie them together with the H-pipe. I am pleased with the way it came out.
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Stripped66 Samba Member

Joined: May 31, 2005 Posts: 2439 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| dirtsandwich wrote: | | Twisted Minis wrote: | | I'm a little disappointed the exhaust looks so simple in the pictures, but there are a lot of angles you don't really see. Its not just straight with some bends. Almost every bend is off axis from the one before, especially on the PS. |
I am not disappointed about anything in this build. I want one. |
I'm disappointed that I don't have one  _________________ Rocky Jennings Enterprises
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Twisted Minis Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Almost done with the exhaust. I fitted up the H-pipe, I just need to cut the holes and weld it in place.
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Twisted Minis Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Here are some better pictures.
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Gary  Person of Interest

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Emiel Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Virtually all V-8 exhaust systems can be refined by the addition of a balance or X-pipe. These have two potential attributes: increased power and reduced noise. Extensive dyno testing on both of these factors has indicated balance and X-pipes are 100 percent successful at reducing noise. The reductions amount to a minimum of 1 dB to a maximum of 3 dB with 2 dB being common. As far as power is concerned, things are a little less certain. With engines between about 325 to 550 hp, experience indicates that in about 60 percent of the cases (mostly with balance pipes), the engine can deliver as much as 12 additional hp, with 5-8 being the most common. The other remaining 40 percent tested showed virtually no change in output either up or down. Based on such results, we can conclude that a balance or X-pipe is always a positive asset and never a negative.
Balance pipe sizing seems not to be overly critical. The only really influential dimension is the pipe diameter. This needs to have an area at least equal to that of a 2.25-inch diameter pipe (4 square inches) with 2.5 to 2.75 inches being preferable. Though limited to tests on engines up to a little fewer than 600 hp, there seems to be no measurable benefits to using a crossover pipe bigger than 2.75 inches in diameter. As for the crossover length, dyno results indicate that 18 inches responds in virtually the same manner as 72 inches long.
Read more: http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/art...z1d9KM4fih _________________ www.mivw.nl
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Hugo Stiglitz Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Gary wrote: | | Nice work. What's the reason for the cross-over in the exhaust? |
Helps equalize and balance the flow of a true dual exhaust system. Helps with low to mid range torque and minimizes that rasp you hear during deceleration. _________________ '63 slow n low build thread...
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Gary  Person of Interest

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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm interested to see the heat exchangers get plumbed in. The truck should be toasty with those monsters. |
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