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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:15 pm    Post subject: Super Beetle Shift Rod Removal Reply with quote

Hey everybody,

I can't seem to figure out how to remove the shift rod in my super and would greatly appreciate any clarification I could receive. I know that standards have and access panel but my super does not and I've read that there is a "crush-plate" that needs to be removed to pull the rod out. Does anyone have a picture of this crush-plate? I jacked up the bug yesterday and saw nothing that resembled this mysterious piece. Ok, second issue is the location of the rod bushing itself. Is it located right where the rod enters the tube (towards the front of the car) under the rear access panel? Again pictures would help a lot.

Thanks everybody!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right in the front in the center attached to the front of the chassis is a metal part. It is the forward most part of the chassis. Remove it and behind it is the opening you are looking for.
Here is a pic of the chassis with the opening exposed. the metal part I mentioned is not shown
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the old crush plate on mine

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and removed

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Has around 6 to 8 bolts holding it in.

You will have to remove the sway bar saddles as well and drop the sway bar down abit to get it out.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Super Beetle Shift Rod Removal Reply with quote

sallittjob wrote:
Hey everybody,

I can't seem to figure out how to remove the shift rod in my super and would greatly appreciate any clarification I could receive.

Why are you trying to remove it? If you want to put in a new bushing for the bracket by the bottom of the shift lever, you don't need to take the rod all the way out of the car. There's room inside the tunnel to bring it forward and then re-thread it back in. I've done it in my 1972 Super.

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Ok, second issue is the location of the rod bushing itself. Is it located right where the rod enters the tube (towards the front of the car) under the rear access panel? Again pictures would help a lot.

I don't have any pictures of mine. It's enough of a fiddly process and it's mostly working through a small hole with pliers that there's nothing much to take pictures of.

The bushing goes in the bracket that holds the very front end of the shift rod. The bracket is attached to the roof of the tunnel just to the rear where the gearshift goes into the tunnel. You get to it by removing the gear shift from the tunnel. The bushing sits in the bracket and holds the forward end of the shift rod.

The procedure for replacing the bushing roughly is:
* gear shift out (verify that shift rod touches bracket metal-to-metal)
* rear tunnel access panel open (under the seat)
* undo the coupling, freeing the shift rod
* work the shift rod forward into the tunnel, so that it's completely free of the bracket
* put the ring on the bushing
* put the bushing into the bracket, grease the inside. Make sure it snaps into the bracket and grabs the bracket in the deep groove in the side of the bushing
* grease what you can of the rod
* work the rod back through the bushing and bracket, greasing it as you go
* re-couple it to the transmission shift mechanism.
* re-install the shift rod

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and I worked the rod forward and back by gripping it through the hole with a large slip-joint pliers. That allowed me to keep a grip on it even though I had it pretty greased up.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:00 pm    Post subject: http://www.vw-resource.com/shifter_bushing_replacement.html Reply with quote

http://www.vw-resource.com/shifter_bushing_replacement.html
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:18 am    Post subject: Re: Super Beetle Shift Rod Removal Reply with quote

sallittjob wrote:
Ok, second issue is the location of the rod bushing itself. Again pictures would help a lot.

Thanks everybody!


Here ya go, it sits in the hanger just behind the gearstick mounting hole.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the great responses! All of my questions have been answered!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the rod and coupler bushings replaced today. What a difference! Thanks again for the help-
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gevmage wrote:
Oh, and I worked the rod forward and back by gripping it through the hole with a large slip-joint pliers.

I recommend against using pliers that way. When you use pliers, it chews up the whole length so that when you push the shift rod back in, it tears up the new bushing.

Alternate procedure:
When you are ready to pull the shift rod out, take a piece of strong cord and tape one end to the end of a broom handle. Feed that in from the front until it's at the shifter hole. Tie the cord to the shift rod and pull it out the front.
After you get the new bushing in the hanger and clean up and grease the rod, re-install the shift rod in the tunnel. Guide the tail end of the rod into the bushing. With the broom handle, you can now push the shift rod all the way home. You have to pay attention to where the tail end is going while you push it in so it doesn't get caught up in all the tubes in the tunnel.
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