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fivelugshortaxle
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| ralf wrote: | i may have complicated the wording.. its really simple to do
wat ur gona measure is oil clearance, some have different terms
like bearing clearance etc
basically the gap between the crank's main journal and the main bearing's face
where oil rids....
use the main journals as rereference "zero" by using a micrometer
then use the micrometer's set measurement (locked in mic) and zero your dial bore guage to it....
now insert that on the main tunnel of a torqued case with main bearings it will show u the difference in " how far the journals are from the face of the bearings = oil clearance
in a nut shell
cranks main journal OD vs main bearings ID the difference/clearance between the two |
That's what I thought but I had it pictured wrong in my head......I can just reach in through a cylinder hole in the case and take the measurements on each one when torqued. Thanks.....I'll save some questions for when I actually have the case....still have to get it and have Paul go through it fixing whatever needs fixing..ie main bearing oiling holes and whatever else....
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ralf
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| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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uhm unless u have a 90degree bent dial bore guage? its possible
usually its straight so u go in from the mains LOL
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fivelugshortaxle
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| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| ralf wrote: | uhm unless u have a 90degree bent dial bore guage? its possible
usually its straight so u go in from the mains LOL |
Lol! Okay....hey Paul, how are the heads and intakes looking? Any problems you see with the 48's?
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RockCrusher
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| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| fivelugshortaxle wrote: | | what's a good book to get that explains all of this |
"The Fundamentals of Dimensional Metrology"
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fivelugshortaxle
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| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| fivelugshortaxle wrote: | | ralf wrote: | uhm unless u have a 90degree bent dial bore guage? its possible
usually its straight so u go in from the mains LOL |
Lol! Okay....hey Paul, how are the heads and intakes looking? Any problems you see with the 48's? |
Ahem....ahhhheeemmmm....^^^^^
Wow! That book is expensive!
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RockCrusher
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| Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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That's the book I used to teach from when I had about 30 quality techs under my care.
Haven't torn into the carbs yet but they look nice and clean on the outside. looks like someone got a little overzealous tightening the vent screws though. Like where do they think the vents were going to go anyway?
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"Sunnen's complete cylinder head and engine rebuilding handbook" is also expensive. DANG I guess we should start charging for this stuff 
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| Quote: | | Ok....complicated.....what's a good book to get that explains all of this.....that way I don't have to post a gazillion questions that could easily be answered by a book...... |
I have the Jim Martin engine build article from the Airspeed forums saved, I could e-mail it to you. It is large, with lots of pics.
I am just in the process of breaking it down into PDF pages so I can post it on my photobucket account.
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fivelugshortaxle
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| W1K1 wrote: | | Quote: | | Ok....complicated.....what's a good book to get that explains all of this.....that way I don't have to post a gazillion questions that could easily be answered by a book...... |
I have the Jim Martin engine build article from the Airspeed forums saved, I could e-mail it to you. It is large, with lots of pics.
I am just in the process of breaking it down into PDF pages so I can post it on my photobucket account. |
Yes, that would be awesome.......[email protected]......thanks!
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ralf
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| fivelugshortaxle wrote: | | W1K1 wrote: | | Quote: | | Ok....complicated.....what's a good book to get that explains all of this.....that way I don't have to post a gazillion questions that could easily be answered by a book...... |
I have the Jim Martin engine build article from the Airspeed forums saved, I could e-mail it to you. It is large, with lots of pics.
I am just in the process of breaking it down into PDF pages so I can post it on my photobucket account. |
Yes, that would be awesome.......[email protected]......thanks! |
w1k1 thats one of the if not the most detailed assembly ive seen
he will apriciate this
i juz wish some one here would do that
versus bragging about 20yrs of building sumthing and "trust my word" kinda thing...
i can give it a shot but i know most here has more experience than i do
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RockCrusher
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The thing is that most of the "20 year experience" guys are in business to make money and not to give away the store. There is a lot more some of us could give but it would be like giving you our guns and telling you to shoot us.
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| fivelugshortaxle wrote: | | .....he swears that all deep sumps leak and that a build like mine doesn't need one and that its really mot needed on a big motor...... |
You are crazy if you don't install a sump on your motor. Contrary to what your "expert" told you, this is exactly the application a quality deep sump was designed for.
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| RockCrusher wrote: | | JB weld the case halves....that'll keep the fretting to a minimum. |
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fivelugshortaxle
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| DarthWeber wrote: | | fivelugshortaxle wrote: | | .....he swears that all deep sumps leak and that a build like mine doesn't need one and that its really mot needed on a big motor...... |
You are crazy if you don't install a sump on your motor. Contrary to what your "expert" told you, this is exactly the application a quality deep sump was designed for. |
Yes I know....that one little detail is why I will be putting it together without him "helping"...
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RailBoy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| On the sump thing I read your thread so far and did not see the post that mentioned it, anyway, I run a Sump on my 2110 and like it. My engine takes 6 Qts. to fill up with an external oil cooler and I like the notion of more oil being used in the circulation do to wear and tear of a stroker, so it aids in longjevity plus less cylces on the oil before an oil change... RB |
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fivelugshortaxle
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| RailBoy wrote: | | On the sump thing I read your thread so far and did not see the post that mentioned it, anyway, I run a Sump on my 2110 and like it. My engine takes 6 Qts. to fill up with an external oil cooler and I like the notion of more oil being used in the circulation do to wear and tear of a stroker, so it aids in longjevity plus less cylces on the oil before an oil change... RB |
So do I.....2.5 quarts is fine for 56HP, but not for a motor this size....my friend also said that they all leak....Im sorry but they don't al leak as evidenced by the one I had on my old 1835....that motor never leaked a drop.....anywhere.....I also saw him "man handle" a piston into a cylinder...breaking a chunk off the cylinder wall with the retaining pin and then breaking a ring when putting it into the new cylinder....regarless what most on here say about building your first stroker, I'll be putting it together myself....and learning along the way...I pay attention to detail and believe myself to be fully capable of pretty much anything I set my mind to
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ralf
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| RockCrusher wrote: | | The thing is that most of the "20 year experience" guys are in business to make money and not to give away the store. There is a lot more some of us could give but it would be like giving you our guns and telling you to shoot us. |
thats understandable but some say the same and dont own a shop
u know just needs the arm chair dominance keyboard shwaggle LOL!
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fivelugshortaxle
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Okay....another area that I have zero knowledge in.....gauges......I want to have them set up and ready to go for when I've finally got the engine in and running.....
Oil pressure
oil temperature
Cylinder head temperature
I will also need the sending unit for the oil pressure gauge
What's the best place to get them all and complete with what ill need?
Not worried about getting cheap ones, they will basically be the voice of the motor so I want them to be good ones.
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rays-64
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| fivelugshortaxle wrote: | Okay....another area that I have zero knowledge in.....gauges......I want to have them set up and ready to go for when I've finally got the engine in and running.....
Oil pressure
oil temperature
Cylinder head temperature
I will also need the sending unit for the oil pressure gauge
What's the best place to get them all and complete with what ill need?
Not worried about getting cheap ones, they will basically be the voice of the motor so I want them to be good ones. |
since you spent some good money on that motor go with the best. Dakota Digital have the best and only really costs a little more. They don't offer the best looking but are best working |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| also install cylinder head temp. sender before you install the engine in the car. This will save you a headache later. |
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fivelugshortaxle
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| rays-64 wrote: | | fivelugshortaxle wrote: | Okay....another area that I have zero knowledge in.....gauges......I want to have them set up and ready to go for when I've finally got the engine in and running.....
Oil pressure
oil temperature
Cylinder head temperature
I will also need the sending unit for the oil pressure gauge
What's the best place to get them all and complete with what ill need?
Not worried about getting cheap ones, they will basically be the voice of the motor so I want them to be good ones. |
since you spent some good money on that motor go with the best. Dakota Digital have the best and only really costs a little more. They don't offer the best looking but are best working |
Thanks....I'll check them out......and beauty is in the eye of the beholder....Lol! As long as they work well...
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