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darkflaw Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Not too worried about it since it will be strictly off-road. Swear I read during my research that the geometry was actually better in some cases, may be wrong though. _________________ Berrien 295 Build Thread
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darkflaw Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Trying to decide on rims. Bead-locks or not.
Going with a 33X14X15C Bogger
Not sure if I should go with a cheaper basic rim like this.
Or if I should just spend the extra and go for the beadlocks.
Worried about having a wide tire, don't want to be losing a bead in the middle of a hill! _________________ Berrien 295 Build Thread
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tanner_122 Samba Member

Joined: July 20, 2009 Posts: 1239 Location: Norco CA
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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bead locks u have the chance of ripping the bead on the tire
have seen this on a friends jeep he wasnt happy  _________________ 91 jeep Cherokee "TANK" |
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darkflaw Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, never thought about that either.. All in all would it be better to just go with a regular steel rim? I hate making decisions!!! _________________ Berrien 295 Build Thread
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JWHracing Samba Member

Joined: September 17, 2008 Posts: 102 Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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you really only have a chance of ripping a bead on a tire with a bead lock if you're running extremely low tire pressures, and crawling rocks. this is a buggy not a jeep, two completely different animals. take into consideration the amount of racers that run beadlocks, if they have a flat its a tire issue not a wheel issue. don't cheap out on tires and wheels, especially since they're what connects your car to the road, you get what you pay for. _________________ 65 Baja, Turbocharged 1915 cc, IRS Rear, Link Pin front, 2.0 Fox Shox all around, full cage front to rear, Starburst blue and Briar brown paint, Douglas Aluminum Wheels, Pioneer components |
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thext94 Samba Member

Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 1005 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| JWHracing wrote: | | you really only have a chance of ripping a bead on a tire with a bead lock if you're running extremely low tire pressures, and crawling rocks. this is a buggy not a jeep, two completely different animals. take into consideration the amount of racers that run beadlocks, if they have a flat its a tire issue not a wheel issue. don't cheap out on tires and wheels, especially since they're what connects your car to the road, you get what you pay for. |
X2, well said _________________ Tyler
'67 Baja: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=441376
'67 Class 11: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=521883 |
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darkflaw Samba Member
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tanner_122 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| JWHracing wrote: | | you really only have a chance of ripping a bead on a tire with a bead lock if you're running extremely low tire pressures, and crawling rocks. this is a buggy not a jeep, two completely different animals. take into consideration the amount of racers that run beadlocks, if they have a flat its a tire issue not a wheel issue. don't cheap out on tires and wheels, especially since they're what connects your car to the road, you get what you pay for. |
not to start a debate but u VW people get all angry and say bugs can go anywhere a jeep can... i have seen a long travel baja bug rock crawl... the clutch didnt like it that well _________________ 91 jeep Cherokee "TANK" |
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darkflaw Samba Member
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Notched Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:37 am Post subject: |
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What shocks did you use on the ball joint beam? _________________ Phillip Bradfield – N.O.N.A. Member 10092
The 1500x1.55 Club
| notchback wrote: | This is a Fye project. You actually expect it to happen?  |
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darkflaw Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure really, some cheap "OEM" shocks from MidAmericaMotorWorks, got them before I really knew what I was doing. Wouldn't recommend the shocks or the company. Won't be using any of the front beam that is currently on it. Going with a tower-less Bugzlya conversion beam and hoops. _________________ Berrien 295 Build Thread
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Notched Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Thanks. I wasn't sure if they were something different... Great build! _________________ Phillip Bradfield – N.O.N.A. Member 10092
The 1500x1.55 Club
| notchback wrote: | This is a Fye project. You actually expect it to happen?  |
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darkflaw Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Small update for your guys.
Got my calipers in today, picked up two four piston dynalite calipers and man are they nice!
Also got my rims in today, chose some 15x8 steel rims to make my own bead-locks out of, went with 5x4.5 bolt pattern because in case I ever need a spare rim I have tons laying around. I will be running airkewld bad series rotors all the way around using 5x4.5.
This is what they will look like after I get the bead-lock kit installed, you weld a ring on the outside of the rim, no cutting or anything, guess a lot of guys over at 4x4pirate run these setups and have good luck with them. No worries on the weld, my uncle offered to do it at work where he can xray the welds to make sure they are air tight.
Soon as I pay all this off, which is gonna be tight, I will be buying the rotors and two 33x12.5 tsl swampers, plus shocks once f-o-a re-opens.
Also pretty sure I am going to purchase eagle performances a-arm kit!
So much more to come! _________________ Berrien 295 Build Thread
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darkflaw Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Bad Series rotors are on their way, also scrambled up some temporary tires until I get my new ones. Pretty sure I will be at around 80 inches wide in the rear.
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darkflaw Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for no posts, been rather busy. Got quite a few things done recently.
Rear end is done for now, just have to put calipers on and shocks and my final tires.
The amazing bad series rotors!
Created a HD front mount for my trans, plan on redoing all of them this way.
And finally the best, got my beadlocks on and I can't believe how good they look, you can't even tell they were welded on! Great job Uncle
February 10th I should be ordering my a-arm kit so stay tuned  _________________ Berrien 295 Build Thread
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darkflaw Samba Member
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darkflaw Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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More small updates.
Finished my front upper mount.
My new front mount, didn't come out exactly as pretty as I had hoped but it is definitely strong as hell.
Also have been trying to increase the quality of my welds, these are some of my better ones from today.
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Bajabugman1970 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Good work on your build, but you seam to be haveing a hard time settling on your final setup which looks like it is costing you much more money. Whatever you finnish it will be great so have fun doing it. |
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enjoyther1de Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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slow down on your welds and watch the puddle.. practice till they lool like a roll of dimes. what kind of machine are you using? wire? gas? _________________ http://www.grassvalleyrec.com/HBB2/Brad_0001.wmv
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darkflaw Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| Bajabugman1970 wrote: | | Good work on your build, but you seam to be haveing a hard time settling on your final setup which looks like it is costing you much more money. Whatever you finnish it will be great so have fun doing it. |
Yes I do change my mind a lot and it cost me so much in the beginning, but this is my first real project so it is still new to me, I have learned to not buy things in advanced and plan it out well.
| enjoyther1de wrote: | | slow down on your welds and watch the puddle.. practice till they lool like a roll of dimes. what kind of machine are you using? wire? gas? |
Using a Hobart with a Co2 mix I believe, don't have a ton of time on the machine, just enough to get into trouble, most of the welding on this frame was done by a buddy of mine who is an actual welder. Need to work on slowing down the most. _________________ Berrien 295 Build Thread
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