Joined: November 16, 2011 Posts: 816 Location: Lakeland Florida
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:25 am Post subject:
John Moxon wrote:
The WW "Abarth" is made by CSP in Germany...and is an excellent quality and fit...just the tailpipe issue is not good for some.
The poor fit of the Flat4 "Abarth" and their unwillingness to tackle their fit issue was the reason Stephane made his SS version. Stephane's version fits perfectly but as we all know some people are unwilling to commit to Stephane's erratic customer relations.
They are the only two options since Flat4 stopped making the ill-fitting mild steel version.
Okie Dookie! Thanks for the help John
I guess that I'll go with Stephane's muffler, by the time it gets through the mail, I'm sure to have found a Judson by then, so it should be perfect timing!
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Joined: November 24, 2003 Posts: 177 Location: Finland
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:50 am Post subject:
I wish you good luck with the WOB muffler. For me it took over a year to get it. The looks and fit is fine. Remember to handle it with care, I have a loose tailpipe in mine.
Here's the internal structure and how it differs from the patent picture. Silencer area is narrower and the internal exhaust pipe arrangement is different. The changes might affect the flow:
Joined: November 16, 2011 Posts: 816 Location: Lakeland Florida
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:30 pm Post subject:
skyto wrote:
I wish you good luck with the WOB muffler. For me it took over a year to get it. The looks and fit is fine. Remember to handle it with care, I have a loose tailpipe in mine.
Here's the internal structure and how it differs from the patent picture. Silencer area is narrower and the internal exhaust pipe arrangement is different. The changes might affect the flow:
Wow Skyto, that's a very nice set of plans there.....I wonder why no one bothers to make the muffler the correct original way, seems even the WOB muffler has alot of metal on the wrong places, seems if they were made right then there wouldn't be any restriction or back pressure problems? I don't know, I assume this, I'm not a muffler expert, I just think that they look and sound pretty dammm kool
Tom _________________ OG PAINT L331 1957 TYPE 1 OVAL WINDOW
(US Navy In Germany/ Special Ordered Car from MAHAG Munich)
Delivered with Semaphores - German "Puntchen" Cloth Polkadotted Interior -
USA RAM Protection/Export Overrider Bumpers - MPH Speedometer -
Sealed Beam Headlights and Bullet Front Turn Signals!
99.8% ORIGINAL PARTS WITH ONLY 28,000 ORIGINAL MILES/ GARAGE FIND/ UNRESTORED CAR
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 354 Location: Richmond VA
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:44 am Post subject:
I bought my abarth from MR Wob and it only took a little over a month to get it and I live in the states. The exhaust is awesome, flows great and sounds like no other vw I've ever heard! It is well worth the money!
Click on the pic to start the video and you can hear the exhaust.
Joined: November 16, 2011 Posts: 816 Location: Lakeland Florida
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:54 am Post subject:
joebug1956 wrote:
I bought my abarth from MR Wob and it only took a little over a month to get it and I live in the states. The exhaust is awesome, flows great and sounds like no other vw I've ever heard! It is well worth the money!
Click on the pic to start the video and you can hear the exhaust.
Sounds Great I want one!
Tom _________________ OG PAINT L331 1957 TYPE 1 OVAL WINDOW
(US Navy In Germany/ Special Ordered Car from MAHAG Munich)
Delivered with Semaphores - German "Puntchen" Cloth Polkadotted Interior -
USA RAM Protection/Export Overrider Bumpers - MPH Speedometer -
Sealed Beam Headlights and Bullet Front Turn Signals!
99.8% ORIGINAL PARTS WITH ONLY 28,000 ORIGINAL MILES/ GARAGE FIND/ UNRESTORED CAR
I fitted the exhaust from the underside of the car, with the engine still attached. I'm not sure if it was the reason (it was a damn tight fit), but we actually had to cut about 1cm off from the lower pipes that attach to the heat exchangers for it to fit in
So... the tailpipes propably appear a bit lower than they are meant to.
I fitted the exhaust from the underside of the car, with the engine still attached. I'm not sure if it was the reason (it was a damn tight fit), but we actually had to cut about 1cm off from the lower pipes that attach to the heat exchangers for it to fit in
So... the tailpipes propably appear a bit lower than they are meant to.
When I saw this video a while I back thats what made me get Wob to build one for my vert!
Joined: October 11, 2003 Posts: 701 Location: Issaquah via Parkland, WA
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:11 am Post subject:
joebug1956 wrote:
I bought my abarth from MR Wob and it only took a little over a month to get it and I live in the states. The exhaust is awesome, flows great and sounds like no other vw I've ever heard! It is well worth the money!
Click on the pic to start the video and you can hear the exhaust.
Nice Joebug! Sounds good....I watched another one of your clips of you rollin.....dayum your car looks sick all laid out. You need to post that video up in here. What tires you runnin in back? how low are you? I would love to roll that height in the rear, but scared of bangin up the support rails. You scrapin a lot? _________________ I like VWs
I fitted the exhaust from the underside of the car, with the engine still attached. I'm not sure if it was the reason (it was a damn tight fit), but we actually had to cut about 1cm off from the lower pipes that attach to the heat exchangers for it to fit in
So... the tailpipes propably appear a bit lower than they are meant to.
When I saw this video a while I back thats what made me get Wob to build one for my vert!
That's cool to hear, as i've followed your 62 RHD Vert build topic intensely and have especially admired the engine built for it. Awesome car...! _________________ http://vw64.tumblr.com/
I fitted the exhaust from the underside of the car, with the engine still attached. I'm not sure if it was the reason (it was a damn tight fit), but we actually had to cut about 1cm off from the lower pipes that attach to the heat exchangers for it to fit in
So... the tailpipes propably appear a bit lower than they are meant to.
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 354 Location: Richmond VA
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:25 am Post subject:
a-train wrote:
joebug1956 wrote:
I bought my abarth from MR Wob and it only took a little over a month to get it and I live in the states. The exhaust is awesome, flows great and sounds like no other vw I've ever heard! It is well worth the money!
Click on the pic to start the video and you can hear the exhaust.
Nice Joebug! Sounds good....I watched another one of your clips of you rollin.....dayum your car looks sick all laid out. You need to post that video up in here. What tires you runnin in back? how low are you? I would love to roll that height in the rear, but scared of bangin up the support rails. You scrapin a lot?
Thanks! I'm running 205/65/15's in the rear. The rear is down 2 outer splines and 1 inner, with notched and extended spring plates. Support rails are brand new WW rails. I scrape em here and there but not too often. I usually have my wife and daughter in the car and only really scrape going in and out of parking lots, just take it "low and slow"
Joined: January 08, 2003 Posts: 1496 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:17 pm Post subject:
Total pain in the ass to get but dayum it's purdy I asked for a fully polished can and pipes. Stephane didn't let me down.
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Joined: November 03, 2008 Posts: 547 Location: Germany
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:34 am Post subject:
looks beautiful. but as an exhaust it is a crappy piece. _________________ 1956 oval 1192cc 36hp Supercharged 70HP at 3900RPM / 150NM at 2000RPM @ 13 psi
Joined: January 08, 2003 Posts: 1496 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:25 am Post subject:
grueni wrote:
looks beautiful. but as an exhaust it is a crappy piece.
I've heard way more positive than negative. Sorry to hear that you weren't happy with it but I'm thrilled. _________________ 71 Type 1302 Custom
64 Type 151
63 Type 117 L469 Anthracite
64 Type 361 L575 Nutria
58 Type 113 L41 Black
56 Type 113 L227 Strato Silver
52 BSA C11G
59 Heilite Single Wheel Camping Trailer
56 Allstate Single Wheel
84 Vanagon Westfalia
Joined: November 03, 2008 Posts: 547 Location: Germany
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:53 am Post subject:
thats not bad if its just for the look then its an ok exhaust and i hope i am the only one were it not fittet right and had 3 leaks...but all of them are in the inner side just crap. the csp repro is way better i have seen the drawings how they reproduce them.
but hey i still use it;) because it was too much work to have it how it is now...LOL
sound is also cool. too loud but nice. _________________ 1956 oval 1192cc 36hp Supercharged 70HP at 3900RPM / 150NM at 2000RPM @ 13 psi
Joined: June 25, 2006 Posts: 286 Location: Bowen Island, B.C.
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:28 am Post subject:
"thats not bad if its just for the look then its an ok exhaust and i hope i am the only one were it not fittet right and had 3 leaks...but all of them are in the inner side just crap. the csp repro is way better i have seen the drawings how they reproduce them"
Are you talking about the Flat-4 reproduction on CSPs website or the WW reproduction on their site?
Joined: December 08, 2008 Posts: 643 Location: Norway
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject:
skyto wrote:
I wish you good luck with the WOB muffler. For me it took over a year to get it. The looks and fit is fine. Remember to handle it with care, I have a loose tailpipe in mine.
Here's the internal structure and how it differs from the patent picture. Silencer area is narrower and the internal exhaust pipe arrangement is different. The changes might affect the flow:
On fig.4 we see Mr.WOB's pipes have straight cut, original Abarth got angeled cut. That makes a difference in flow, because the straight cut makes a venturi effect that angeled cut dont. In this case the venturi effect makes less flow. _________________ I got a historic car, every scratch got a history...
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