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johnshenry ![Premium Member Premium Member](./templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_star.gif) Samba Member
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Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject: Beetle hand start cranks |
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I have 3, and 2 have a handle end that has a bead rolled in the end, as does the rod under it to keep it captive, this is the more common style that I seen. But this one has a simpler design, with just a sleeve and small steel rings welded on either side of it to keep it captive.
Wondering if anyone has seen this style before, has one, or maybe has documentation showing it. It could be a homemade job, but the rod bends look very nice.
Any info would be great...
_________________ John Henry
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ChrisRheinschild Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:13 am Post subject: |
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The crank handle that came with my 25hp has the rolled bead. On the pulley end it has a guide pin that fits into the nut. This helps to place the crank to the engine. The engine is November 1952. I don't know if the crank is original to the engine. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:19 am Post subject: |
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I thought I read somewhere that the crank was dropped before 1950. _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
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johnshenry ![Premium Member Premium Member](./templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_star.gif) Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Cranks were dropped as standard equipment after '49, but offered as an option well after that. My '50 came from Sweden, and I was told that a lot of N European splits were ordered with the hand crank option. _________________ John Henry
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79SuperVert Samba Member
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Thanks! ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
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Bengt H Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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johnshenry wrote: |
Cranks were dropped as standard equipment after '49, but offered as an option well after that. My '50 came from Sweden, and I was told that a lot of N European splits were ordered with the hand crank option. |
Thats correct, many Swedish -50 has the crankhandle but I have not seen many later splits with that. |
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Bengt H Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:22 am Post subject: |
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I friend of mine has an late -48 with the same hand crank so I think its from that era. If it is for sale I am interested to buy it, I also has a -48 . My june -49 has the normal style of crank. |
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johnshenry ![Premium Member Premium Member](./templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_star.gif) Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Bengt H wrote: |
I friend of mine has an late -48 with the same hand crank so I think its from that era. If it is for sale I am interested to buy it, I also has a -48 . My june -49 has the normal style of crank. |
By "normal" style Bengt, you mean the kind with the bead rolled in the end of the sleeve/handle?? _________________ John Henry
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Bengt H Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:29 am Post subject: |
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If I understand your language correct, yes. A pic would help. |
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My early 51 (deluxe that lacks the ichias-vents and has a antenna bump and lever dampers) had a hole in the H-valance that looked factory and holes in bumper indicating a riveted crank bracket... Though the car was in very bad condition... will bring parts of it back to life... Will a industrial engine crank handle fit? The engine will also be a industrial 30 hp one... _________________ Johan, Sweden
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johnshenry ![Premium Member Premium Member](./templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_star.gif) Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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The industrial and bus cranks (far more common) are too short for the Beetles. I do know of someone who will be reproducing the Beetle cranks hopefully in the next month or two. _________________ John Henry
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Does anyone know when the crank start option was offered until.
A local guy has a 54 oval with a crank start set-up and his father
was the original owner. I did not ask him if it came from the factory
that way? |
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johnshenry ![Premium Member Premium Member](./templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_star.gif) Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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I heard that they were offered into the early 60s, but don't know that for certain. _________________ John Henry
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