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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:34 am    Post subject: ANOTHER Syncro trans question Reply with quote

I searched the interweb and here:

Do some syncros have aluminum trans cases and some have magnesium trans cases?

Which is better and why?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The low gear housing of all Syncros are aluminum. I believe the aluminum main cases and intermediate housing all originated in South Africa for added strength (to go with their larger engines).

While the mag alloy version is lighter and is said to have better "memory", the AL version resists ovaling in the two critical bearing bores subject to long term wear.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any way to tell for sure?

The one in my 86 appears silver in color

I got a spare one that appears grayish (mag color)

They definitely look different.

I want to get one rebuilt, but want to use the "correct" one.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One way would be to use a file on both and burn/ignite the filings. Compare with known low gear housing (aluminum) and bell housing (mag) filings. You'll know pretty quick which are which.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think any Syncro transmission cases were magnesium. They should all be aluminum. But keep in mind that a corroded aluminum case that has spent it's life in the salt belt will be grayish and look very different than a well preserved west coast example.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that the only aluminum section in U.S. Syncros is the low gear housing. The main case and intermediate housings are mag alloy. I don't know about Canadian imports.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although they've been called Aluminium and Magnesium cases, they're more of an alloy of Magnesium and Aluminium and it's the varying amounts of this alloy which gives the different properties... not trying to teach you how to suck eggs or anything Laughing

I tend to refer to them as light and heavy cases... the heavy case being the stronger.

I have both heavy and light cases and they both work well. The light case tends to corrode more (more magnesium) and have to be replaced just because of this.

The weight difference can be a lot!

I have always tried to use heavy cases for my Syncros just to give them a fighting chance.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks

I suppose I will have the "heavy" more silver looking trans currently in my syncro rebuilt.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MG,
If you don't mind I am going to start using your description of cases.
Very easily unbderstood.
Well done.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

21-window wrote:
Any way to tell for sure?

Acid test!
Literally, not figuratively. Wink

Pour 1-2ml of vinegar on the suspected Mg part. Watch it for 3-5 min. If it starts to foam up, you have Mg. If it does nothing: Al.
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