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21-window  Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:34 am Post subject: ANOTHER Syncro trans question |
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I searched the interweb and here:
Do some syncros have aluminum trans cases and some have magnesium trans cases?
Which is better and why? |
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gears Samba Member

Joined: October 28, 2002 Posts: 1677 Location: Sierras
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:57 am Post subject: |
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The low gear housing of all Syncros are aluminum. I believe the aluminum main cases and intermediate housing all originated in South Africa for added strength (to go with their larger engines).
While the mag alloy version is lighter and is said to have better "memory", the AL version resists ovaling in the two critical bearing bores subject to long term wear. |
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21-window  Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Any way to tell for sure?
The one in my 86 appears silver in color
I got a spare one that appears grayish (mag color)
They definitely look different.
I want to get one rebuilt, but want to use the "correct" one. |
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gears Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| One way would be to use a file on both and burn/ignite the filings. Compare with known low gear housing (aluminum) and bell housing (mag) filings. You'll know pretty quick which are which. |
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D Clymer Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2005 Posts: 2209 Location: Issaquah, WA
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think any Syncro transmission cases were magnesium. They should all be aluminum. But keep in mind that a corroded aluminum case that has spent it's life in the salt belt will be grayish and look very different than a well preserved west coast example.
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gears Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe that the only aluminum section in U.S. Syncros is the low gear housing. The main case and intermediate housings are mag alloy. I don't know about Canadian imports. |
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SyncroGhia Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Although they've been called Aluminium and Magnesium cases, they're more of an alloy of Magnesium and Aluminium and it's the varying amounts of this alloy which gives the different properties... not trying to teach you how to suck eggs or anything
I tend to refer to them as light and heavy cases... the heavy case being the stronger.
I have both heavy and light cases and they both work well. The light case tends to corrode more (more magnesium) and have to be replaced just because of this.
The weight difference can be a lot!
I have always tried to use heavy cases for my Syncros just to give them a fighting chance.
MG _________________ 1989 Syncro 16 S6 Westy Limey
1991 Syncro Lightweight SWB
1989 S8 Bluestar
1990 Tristar |
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21-window  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Thanks
I suppose I will have the "heavy" more silver looking trans currently in my syncro rebuilt.
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insyncro  Samba Member

Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 6549 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:06 am Post subject: |
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MG,
If you don't mind I am going to start using your description of cases.
Very easily unbderstood.
Well done.
dylan |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 14429 Location: Honduras
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| 21-window wrote: | | Any way to tell for sure? |
Acid test!
Literally, not figuratively.
Pour 1-2ml of vinegar on the suspected Mg part. Watch it for 3-5 min. If it starts to foam up, you have Mg. If it does nothing: Al. _________________
| Glenn wrote: | | ..... and like them better than Bosch. |
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