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| Corwyn wrote: |
| All I see is tires and lift kits. Where are the bull bars, ladders, lights, skid plates, racks, rocket launchers, etc? |
I think most people only buy and install FUNCTIONAL equiptment for their vans. After all, if one wanted the Official Napa Auto Parts Chrome Kit, first one would need a Ford or Chevy.....
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240Gordy
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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okay can we all play nice here and just enjoy the sublimity that is the vanagon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, was I being snarky? 
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randywebb
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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magazine articles criticized the Vanagon for lack of suspension articulation compared with the previous Bus
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BillM
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:50 am Post subject: |
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I didn't see that as snarky Domo. What does snarky even really mean?
I do though agree. Vanagons are more about practicality "bling" than just show "bling". It makes me think back to when I had my first car the first accessory I bought. It was one of those tinted strips that went across the
top of the windshield with Mustang written across it. The chrome kit was passed over in favor of neon green colored stuff. It was the 80's and Miami Vice was on TV. I even painted some of the stuff on my split window I had at the same time Neon Pink 
Bill
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Zetec w/turbo,hc oil pan,stainless heat shield,dual starter,skid plate..hell lets just say I spent to much!!! |
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240Gordy
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| BillM wrote: |
| It was the 80's and Miami Vice was on TV. I even painted some of the stuff on my split window I had at the same time Neon Pink ! |
the horror!
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j_dirge
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| Corwyn wrote: |
Those are all "pre-runners"?
All I see is tires and lift kits. Where are the bull bars, ladders, lights, skid plates, racks, rocket launchers, etc? |
Yeah.. I agree. 
"Pre-runner" used to be a beater that was used to scope out race conditions.. But as desert racing went from beaters to the insane hi-tech stuff they have today... pre-runners became pretty highly tuned race vehicle in thier own right.
I'd hazard a guess that a top-flight pre-runner in use today probably would have won open class races 20-30 yrs ago.
That said.. I'll repeat something I posted on this subject a while back.. It would be a pretty cool project to build a "real" pre-runner out of a Vanagon. The yellow VR6 van linked in the video here on Samba a couple days ago comes to mind. .. just a 2WD version.
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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fastwagens
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| very cool buses, Just picked up wheels and tires and now waiting for the first dry day to lift my van from a lowered suspension to a lifted one. |
I had a dry day and lifted my van to stage one. I went from 13.5' to 16.5. what a huge difference behind the wheel. My shocks and ball joints seem to limit me infront. in the back I might be limited by the CV's. My goal is to get to the 18" mark. then we will see where to go from there.
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euromog
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Why not lower the engine and trans in relation to the body so the same spec as a Syncro? While you are at it tilt them at a 10 degree angle like is done in Baja's and buggies. Upgrade to 930 CV's and 30x9.50 tires and you can hit a 20" ride height easy.
Up front you will need some different upper control arms to compensate for the ball joint angle. Also longer shocks front and rear but that is the easy part.
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| very cool buses, Just picked up wheels and tires and now waiting for the first dry day to lift my van from a lowered suspension to a lifted one. |
I had a dry day and lifted my van to stage one. I went from 13.5' to 16.5. what a huge difference behind the wheel. My shocks and ball joints seem to limit me infront. in the back I might be limited by the CV's. My goal is to get to the 18" mark. then we will see where to go from there. |
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fastwagens
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:23 am Post subject: |
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^^^^^^^ I have not gotten that far into it yet and this my first venture in going up. I have built half a dozen lowriders of various makes but never have i lifted a car. so there is a learning curve i need to catch up on.
you mention the buggies and that is something I have pondered.
Long travel buggy suspension? just a thought.
I am sure its all been done but its all new to me.
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JunkYarDog
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| randywebb wrote: |
| magazine articles criticized the Vanagon for lack of suspension articulation compared with the previous Bus |
The articuation is limited, but if I lift a wheel on one side of the front it doesn't affect momentum. However in the rear with an open diff I have isses. Usually I don't have an issue with the rear lifting though.
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AnmlMthrM60
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rfoubi
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| AnmlMthrM60 wrote: |
Bilsteins shocks and GW springs all the way around with 1/2in spacers pads in the rear. 215/75/15 BFG KM2s on steel Audi wheels. Peloquin torque biasing LSD and Type 4 CVs.
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Looks good man, i have the same rims with BFG MTs that are worn out and looking to swap them for the KM2s. How do you like the tires? |
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fastwagens
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| AnmlMthrM60 wrote: |
Bilsteins shocks and GW springs all the way around with 1/2in spacers pads in the rear. 215/75/15 BFG KM2s on steel Audi wheels. Peloquin torque biasing LSD and Type 4 CVs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs8ZnB5yy1o
I've got a build thread going on SoCal Bajas if anyone is interested in all the stuff I've done in detail. http://socalbajas.yuku.com/topic/258/AnmlMthrM60s-83-Westy
If you're looking for something similar to long travel, go to BurleysMotorsports.com and check out their current projects.
I have a Syncro now. I just can't stop dumping money into my beloved Westy. I need to start building the Syncro up... |
no trailer queen here, backing it up with video FTW.
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insyncro
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| AnmlMthrM60 wrote: |
Bilsteins shocks and GW springs all the way around with 1/2in spacers pads in the rear. 215/75/15 BFG KM2s on steel Audi wheels. Peloquin torque biasing LSD and Type 4 CVs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs8ZnB5yy1o
I've got a build thread going on SoCal Bajas if anyone is interested in all the stuff I've done in detail. http://socalbajas.yuku.com/topic/258/AnmlMthrM60s-83-Westy
If you're looking for something similar to long travel, go to BurleysMotorsports.com and check out their current projects.
I have a Syncro now. I just can't stop dumping money into my beloved Westy. I need to start building the Syncro up... |
Great looking van.
Awesome build thread.
Thanks for sharring.
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j_dirge
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:17 am Post subject: |
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That s a nice bit of video there, AnmlMthrM60..
Really shows what a 2WD can do.. with a little know-how.
I may have to pick up two of those tires for my dirt runnin' trips 
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89 GL Westy, orig 2.1L WBXR.. Will it ever blow?
Well.. yes. It blew.. a big hole in the case. Time for a new engine.
| danfromsyr wrote: |
those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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Carleton
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Inspiring video! Makes me laugh a little to hear that thing creak (I can only imagine how loud mine would be).
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| j_dirge wrote: |
| I may have to pick up two of those tires for my dirt runnin' trips |
Yeap, sealed the deal for me too...great looking tire on steel rims.
Ordered them up for a set of steelies I've been sitting on for too long. |
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THREAD RESURRECTION!
Stock '85 Westy springs on my '87 Wolfsburg with BFG A/T 27x8.5. Gets down fire roads, camp trails and beach access with ease. My wife removed the front "air dam" for us crossing a ditch. 
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