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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:40 pm    Post subject: Restoration of VW Thing 181 Reply with quote

ok here we go cars history
this THING was being scraped by my friend but i was able to persuade him not to.
The car stayed there still at the same place where it was parked 10 to 12years YES 10 to 12 years out side in rain and heat.it was in perfect condition when it was parked.
l had a deal with the guy and after a huge debate(fight) i was able to get the car out of the mechanics hand where car was parked.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now the question

my vw is 181 while it is right hand drive i thought all 181 were lefthand
there is no sign of any alteration
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bravo122 wrote:
now the question

my vw is 181 while it is right hand drive i thought all 181 were lefthand
there is no sign of any alteration


Right hand drive is a 182. There are some some 182 specific parts such as wiper motor, pedal cluster and I'm guessing steering componets. However, with the exception of the wiper motor most items should be compatable with RHD Beetle parts.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! That Thing was close to the grave.

What do the dual gauges read in the dash? All Things I have seen only have 1 gauge in the pod, and not behind glass/plastic. Looks like the engine is a single port engine.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow! That Thing was close to the grave.

What do the dual gauges read in the dash? All Things I have seen only have 1 gauge in the pod, and not behind glass/plastic. Looks like the engine is a single port engine.


I guessing it's a PO modification. Looks like a Toyota steering wheel
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but the thing is on my vw beside vin number it is written it is vw 181 but it is right hand drive how come?
if it is 181 it should be left hand drive
whole project will cost be about 3000 to 4000$ and if i get the topnotch work 5000 to 6000max as labour here is preety cheap
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, a right hand drive 181. On mine the build plate says 'Tipo 181' 'Hecho en Mexico', the Chassis number starts with 186, and it is a factory right hand drive.
Call it what you want.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man I wish I could restore my car for 100,000 rupees!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

unterkafer wrote:
yes, a right hand drive 181. On mine the build plate says 'Tipo 181' 'Hecho en Mexico', the Chassis number starts with 186, and it is a factory right hand drive.
Call it what you want.


Chassis number wouldn't indicate whether vehicle was a 181 or 182. Chassis number starting with 186 would indicate a 1976 model year.

The only 182 that I've ever see in person looked exactly like a 181 only with driving position shifted to the right side. Same gauges, dash, wheel, ect..Note the 3 point seatbelt extensions.

Below is a few pictures I snapped around 7 years ago of a 182 at a show.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bravo122 wrote:
now the question

my vw is 181 while it is right hand drive i thought all 181 were lefthand
there is no sign of any alteration


I'm not so sure about that...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you dont think thats a stock setup Mink? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@mink
i meant it had no alteration of the staring column

and it is 1971 model
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DougD wrote:
Man I wish I could restore my car for 100,000 rupees!

its gona cost tripple the price
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bravo122 wrote:
@mink
i meant it had no alteration of the staring column

and it is 1971 model


I see nothing vaugely resembling VW on either the dash or steering column. I'm willing to bet it did not come from the factory like that. The steering wheel looks to something out of a small truck, maybe Toyota. Is it possible to get a closer look at the wheel and dash?

As for the year. Does it have bus RGBs. Judging from the tail lights the body appears to be a pre-72 or Euro built body. I'm guessing it has the bus style holes.

There were some 6000 RHD vehicles that were assembled from kits in Indonesia. If this is one of those, then that could account for the non-standard VIN prefix.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it was a pretty elaborate, non-stock center console setup as well, extending down from the dash panel to between the seats.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I see nothing vaugely resembling VW on either the dash or steering column. I'm willing to bet it did not come from the factory like that. The steering wheel looks to something out of a small truck, maybe Toyota. Is it possible to get a closer look at the wheel and dash?


This was the only other one he posted in the other thread. Definitely not VW. I'm guessing something like a Toyota or Mazda.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheel looks similar to this one. Intrument panel is from something else.

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God knows where that center console came from.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

obviously the steering wheel, upper column, dash etc are heavily modified.

But the proof will be found in the location where the lower steering column goes through the front lower bulkhead, has the left side been patched and a new penetration through the bulkhead? and whether the (original) steering box locating tabs are welded on the front beam on the right hand side or the left hand side.

I thought the penetrations in the tunnel for the brake,clutch, accelerator pedal cluster might have been an indicator as well, but (on mine at least) the clever Volkswagen people made it symmetrical didn't they...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stealing column was changed by previous owner to make it power steering and also the dash board ,speedometer and the interior was also replaced because of non avablity of parts.but it was genuine right hand drive

Today I removed the tank and there was no evident sign of patching the vw to convert it from left to right hand altought I very bad job done by previous owner while replacing stearing with Toyota one.

I also asked a vw expert to check my THING he told me that my vw was one if the few vw 181 which were right hand drive and were launched before greeting the name 182 and the car is 1971 model which makes it more unique and it still has the genuine engine which is not opend yet it's seals are still intact.

And also can u guide me that will beetle tank fit this as mine is heavily rusted and it is not available
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bravo122 wrote:

And also can u guide me that will beetle tank fit this as mine is heavily rusted and it is not available


Fuel tank is from a Beetle or Ghia (1968-1974). P/N 113 201 075 AD.

Download the part manual available in the technical section. You may find it useful. Good luck
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