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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 5573 Location: Edmonds, WA.
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't get much done today, but made a big leap.
A friend brought his rail buggy over so we could do ball joints and change exhausts.
So once we had a handle on that I pulled the intake off which really wasn't bad at all. Once out, I saw a 1/2" vacuum port on the bottom of the intake on the flywheel end that was broken off. I swapped the intake from the other motor on (luckily now I have a place to connect booster vacuum to). I fired it up and it settled right down to 950 RPM and is very quiet!
So tomorrow I'll work on a throttle, and hopefully start driving it. |
Time for another video!!!! _________________ MINE - 1978 Westfalia ~ Maisy ~ FI, Hydraulic Valves, Electronic Points, 2.0 (NEED A SET OF HEADS, PM ME IF YOU HAVE A SET)
DAD's - 1972 Westfalia ~ Sticky ~ 1.7(?) 914 motor, allison electronic ignition, electric fuel pump, dual webers w/o choke.
“Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.”
“Those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.” |
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Mr. Unpopular Samba Member

Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3324 Location: Tampa Florida
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Sigh, this throttle will be the death of me. I originally had a hard brake line going from the stock rubber line by the trans up and over the motor to the TB. The throttle stuck bad, so I decided to run a flexible line instead. So I just ran motorcycle sheathing with the cable inside, and it still sticks. I've determined it's not the TB, or the 10 feet of bus that's the issue, but that STUPID throttle pedal design. Off to search for what others have done before trying something on my own. _________________ Reasons to hate me:
FloriDUH resident
I'm a male nurse
I have a late model bug (with only 3 bolts holding the motor in)
I have a rail buggy (with no front brakes or shocks)
I have a late bay Westy (It's got a water-cooled motor) |
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tristessa Samba Member

Joined: April 07, 2004 Posts: 2082 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I've got a lengthened stock piece under the floor. Piece of dual-carb linkage with heim joints running to the pedal, which I made from a crappy hi-hat stand found at Goodwill (cast alum pedal) and a nice clean room hinge a buddy of mine salvaged from Intel where he works. I'll see if I can get pictures. |
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Mr. Unpopular Samba Member

Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3324 Location: Tampa Florida
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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wow what a day. So I get the engine side of the throttle linkage buttoned up and saw the pedal was sticky. I went to drive the bus into the garage so I could put it on the lift to work on the pedal end, and couldn't get it to run. It acted as if out of fuel, and seeing as how I only put a couple of gallons in it for the first start, and it was currently sitting in the yard sloping away from the pickup, figured it was out of fuel.
So I go to the store in my car, get gas, put it in, still won't run. I get extremely pissed and take a lunch break.
Long story short, the fuel filter was clogged. I cleaned the tank with muratic acid and sloshed phosphoric acid in there, but was hesitant to line it with POR-15 because it seems like people are starting to report issues with it years down the road. I also forgot to clean the metal line that goes from the tank across to the filter/pump, so I think there was trash in there.
So I put a new filter on, threw a new spare in the bus , got it fired up, and started investigating my sticky throttle. I narrowed it down to a rusty pin for the gas pedal pivot. I sprayed it liberally with liquid wrench and worked it loose. Now the throttle only occasionally sticks, leaving the motor to idle at 1500 RPM, but one blip and it settles down. I think with further use it will clear up.
I was then able to go for a test drive, this time with mostly success. As I was leaving the neighborhood, I saw a yellow super beetle vert drive by, so I caught up with him, and he was checking out the bus. I got it up to highway speeds for a mile or two and no issues aside from firm brakes (no booster hooked up) and gears that keep moving (I replaced a missing front shift bushing which helped some, but not enough).
So tomorrow I'll hook up the booster to pray it works, put some new inserts in the shift coupler, and hope it works. _________________ Reasons to hate me:
FloriDUH resident
I'm a male nurse
I have a late model bug (with only 3 bolts holding the motor in)
I have a rail buggy (with no front brakes or shocks)
I have a late bay Westy (It's got a water-cooled motor) |
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notchboy Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 11441 Location: Seattle WA
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Mr. Unpopular Samba Member

Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3324 Location: Tampa Florida
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Oh God no. The motor almost touches the back deck. _________________ Reasons to hate me:
FloriDUH resident
I'm a male nurse
I have a late model bug (with only 3 bolts holding the motor in)
I have a rail buggy (with no front brakes or shocks)
I have a late bay Westy (It's got a water-cooled motor) |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Member

Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 4043 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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good work man! years ago, i did a 'gas tank sealer' from eastwood. it was expensive as hell. i followed the directions to a 't'. about 6 months down the road, the shit peeled up and plugged everything. from now on, i have always done the acid, rinse, and poured ATF in the tank slosh it around and drain off. at least it gets the heavies out. i will never seal another tank as long as i live.
so, i have to ask, so far are you happy? must do down the road pretty good _________________
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notchboy Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 11441 Location: Seattle WA
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. Unpopular wrote: |
| Oh God no. The motor almost touches the back deck. |
Thats what I thought. I was trying to picture how you cleaned and sloshed it out while in  _________________ Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 T34 S Convertible
1974 Westfalia Hardtop Campmobile
1977 Westfalia Camper pop-top
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Mr. Unpopular Samba Member

Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3324 Location: Tampa Florida
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, forgot to get video, its been a crazy day. I've made 3 trips to the auto parts store 20 minutes away.
Last update for the night. I rigged up some vacuum lines and the brake booster seems to be working. I just tried it in the yard, but the pedal is much softer now.
Alas though, all is not perfect. I keep telling everyone how low maintenance a water cooled motor is and how great it will be, but I'm sad to report the motor has a pretty good leak coming from what appears to be the rear main seal. It leaves a pretty good puddle after shutting it off, and it's dripping from the bellhousing/adapter plate area. I'm hoping its just the rear main seal leaking, and not that the kennedy adapter flywheel was machined too small or something. I definitely put sealer on all of the flywheel bolts too, so I doubt that's it.
I'm going to keep adding oil until the show season is done in April, then I'll pull it out to investigate. _________________ Reasons to hate me:
FloriDUH resident
I'm a male nurse
I have a late model bug (with only 3 bolts holding the motor in)
I have a rail buggy (with no front brakes or shocks)
I have a late bay Westy (It's got a water-cooled motor) |
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HighTopBay Samba Member
Joined: March 21, 2010 Posts: 311 Location: Port Richey
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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good stuff dave, makes me glad I could be a part of it! even if some of that part is slowing down your progress with my own crap lol. Thanks though!!! Cant wait to go for a ride in this thing. I bet your wife is 7 kinds of excited now _________________ Louis DePaolis |
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Mr. Unpopular Samba Member

Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3324 Location: Tampa Florida
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks man, it's been a journey, but I was able to take a HUGE sigh of relief as Suzie and I went shopping in the bus tonight. The bus never skipped a beat. The only issue is the tune in the ECM is set to turn the fans on at 180 (it was copied from a friends rail buggy). I'd prefer the motor run a bit warmer to optimize performance and mileage. I think I'll change the turn on to about 200 or so. Stock is 223, but I want to leave some head room for summer and towing. _________________ Reasons to hate me:
FloriDUH resident
I'm a male nurse
I have a late model bug (with only 3 bolts holding the motor in)
I have a rail buggy (with no front brakes or shocks)
I have a late bay Westy (It's got a water-cooled motor) |
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sofakingcool Samba Member

Joined: November 13, 2007 Posts: 405 Location: Lexington, SC
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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This is awesome man.. now throw a hydraulic clutch and drive by wire in there and youll be set!  |
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Sloride Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2002 Posts: 485
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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So how did the weekend go? Any more time behind the wheel? Were you able to sort out the throttle cable?
Craig _________________ 1972 Westfalia
2012 Subaru wrx
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HighTopBay Samba Member
Joined: March 21, 2010 Posts: 311 Location: Port Richey
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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^ I was in a convoy with him up to inverness for a camping/rail buggy weekend. The bus ran AMAZING the whole way up and back. _________________ Louis DePaolis |
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Mr. Unpopular Samba Member

Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3324 Location: Tampa Florida
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, we drove it about 20 miles each way to a show saturday morning, then loaded it up and drove about 60 miles each way for a weekend of camping in the woods with our rail buggy.
The bus did great. It ran at 180 degrees the whole way, and was VERY smooth and quiet.
The throttle pedal still sticks, and actually sticks more when the motor is warmer (presuming the return springs lose a bit of tension with heat. I'm going to try to punch the pivot out of the pedal and free it up, and also work on some improved range so I can get full throttle, and probably add a return spring at the pedal.
Stay tuned for a pic and a video. _________________ Reasons to hate me:
FloriDUH resident
I'm a male nurse
I have a late model bug (with only 3 bolts holding the motor in)
I have a rail buggy (with no front brakes or shocks)
I have a late bay Westy (It's got a water-cooled motor) |
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Mr. Unpopular Samba Member

Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3324 Location: Tampa Florida
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:46 am Post subject: |
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Here's a picture my wife took in the campground this weekend. I'll have her take a video this evening when we take it to our weekly taco meet.
That's the radiator hanging down below the side door. _________________ Reasons to hate me:
FloriDUH resident
I'm a male nurse
I have a late model bug (with only 3 bolts holding the motor in)
I have a rail buggy (with no front brakes or shocks)
I have a late bay Westy (It's got a water-cooled motor) |
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 5573 Location: Edmonds, WA.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Looks great!
time for a wax job... _________________ MINE - 1978 Westfalia ~ Maisy ~ FI, Hydraulic Valves, Electronic Points, 2.0 (NEED A SET OF HEADS, PM ME IF YOU HAVE A SET)
DAD's - 1972 Westfalia ~ Sticky ~ 1.7(?) 914 motor, allison electronic ignition, electric fuel pump, dual webers w/o choke.
“Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.”
“Those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.” |
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Mr. Unpopular Samba Member

Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3324 Location: Tampa Florida
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I was thinking about it this weekend, it's been repainted, and has its issues, and DEFINITELY needs a whole nose. I'm really thinking about trying to wax the paint to bring it back some, maybe getting some paint to match to put on the nose for now, so it looks decent while we're fixing it up. _________________ Reasons to hate me:
FloriDUH resident
I'm a male nurse
I have a late model bug (with only 3 bolts holding the motor in)
I have a rail buggy (with no front brakes or shocks)
I have a late bay Westy (It's got a water-cooled motor) |
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notchboy Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 11441 Location: Seattle WA
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tristessa Samba Member

Joined: April 07, 2004 Posts: 2082 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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What you're seeing there is the Infamous Late Bay Butt Sag Illusion. Put a driver (or the weight equivalent of one) in the front seat and it'll level right out.
Mine looks the same way when it's parked. The rear suspension is dead-set to stock and my engine is *maybe* 50# heavier than stock when full of coolant. |
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