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ccpalmer 
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I also had a carb barb fall out, no fire but no fun either. I am now safety-wired as well with my filter over the tranny.
Maybe the filter isn't the issue but why risk it when the fix is so easy??
On my first three Buses I never cared about fuel lines also never had a problem but those Buses were 25-30 years old at the time. Now they're ~40 years old and thus all the more prone to age.
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| Desertbusman wrote: | | cdennisg wrote: | | Glad your bug survived, but this is yet another example of a filter being in the engine compartment, but not causing a fire. It seems to be the scapegoat for further issues. I agree that the filter and it's connections are areas for potential leaks, but the brass inlet pipe and old, dry, and non-ethanol compatible fuel line are the root cause of fuel caused fires, not the filter. |
Thanks, I was really thrilled it didn't burn either but it still about scared the stuff out of me. I actually agree with you on these issues, somewhat. The root cause of the fires is fuel being ignited by ignition sparking or hot exhaust. Keeping fuel away from those ignition sources would solve that problem. Removing potential leak sources would solve that problem.
We know we have a bad hose situation. The right size hose available is bad. Good hose is the wrong size. I'm changing my hoses all the time, at the most every couple years. And I've still run into leaks and seeps. Seems like it's always been at connections where you can see the deteration and cracks and not in the hose runs. So avoid connections, and particulary in the pressure line. Solex inlet fittings are pulling out and fixing that problem or safety wire solves that. I didn't and most folks probably don't do that until a fitting pulls out. In addition to the fitting being a crummy design, the weight and probably flopping of a filter, the line pressure, and any hose tension is what actually pulls the fitting out.
A filter in the suction side of the pump helps solve many of those problems even if it is still in the engine compartment. My tanks are clean and I never get any junk in the filters so am not at all bothered by them being out of sight and in a akward location right under the tank. A lot of problems get solved that way although the hottest of the exhaust is right there in front of the engine. |
This is perfectly stated. The filter is an indirect cause. I only run them in the engine compartment if I am dealing with a dirty tank and I want to be able to change that filter at will. I would rather put the filter on the feed side of the pump in the engine compartment, but I like to run a solid line for that area. I'll run the filter in the pump to carb line, with the brass inlet epoxied in place and the connections safety wired. I like to tie the filter off to something to keep it from bouncing around.
My 70 bus has a nice clean tank. the filter sits above the tranny and is well supported. It's a pain to check and replace, but I don't need to perform that task often. The 57 I am building may have a cruddy tank, and it will get a filter that is easy to access if need be.
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http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/2850506528.html
beautiful bus, but for 16500, can we at least get 4 whole pictures???
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| Boesen wrote: |
 WOW!!! I just got a sweet used set from a Bay at a junkyard for $5.00. |
I was talking with someone the other day and they commented "your window visors look like dealership options, not like that cheap aftermarket crap.". I had no clue nor could I tell the difference. If the seller said "NOS" then someone, not me, may think about it. You never know these days. 
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cdennisg
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Nice bus, but it is overpriced. It being a non-camper, and not a special model or color makes it a bit run-of-the-mill. But, it has all of the documentation from new, tourist delivery, decent interior, body looks straight and dry, and it has what sounds like a nice, strong, fresh engine.
Hard to assess this one. I would guess it's in the $5-$7K range.
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| cdennisg wrote: |
Nice bus, but it is overpriced. It being a non-camper, and not a special model or color makes it a bit run-of-the-mill. But, it has all of the documentation from new, tourist delivery, decent interior, body looks straight and dry, and it has what sounds like a nice, strong, fresh engine.
Hard to assess this one. I would guess it's in the $5-$7K range. |
why not buff the paint? i bet if VdubTech got ahold of it the value doubles because the paint would look so much better. 
if its original, why is there white coming through on the nose, just above the grill?
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| Stuartzickefoose wrote: | | cdennisg wrote: |
Nice bus, but it is overpriced. It being a non-camper, and not a special model or color makes it a bit run-of-the-mill. But, it has all of the documentation from new, tourist delivery, decent interior, body looks straight and dry, and it has what sounds like a nice, strong, fresh engine.
Hard to assess this one. I would guess it's in the $5-$7K range. |
why not buff the paint? i bet if VdubTech got ahold of it the value doubles because the paint would look so much better.
if its original, why is there white coming through on the nose, just above the grill? |
I agree, it would look nicer and probably fetch more money of it were buffed out really well. I would bet that paint would come out great.
I think what you are seeing on the nose is the paint fading through to the primer. I suppose it could be a repaint though. Hard to tell without seeing it in person.
Missing the rear bumper, too. For an asking price of more than a couple of grand, I would expect a rear bumper. But I do see Zee bed brackets on the rear seat back. That's a nice bonus.
EDIT: OK, just had a closer look through the photobucket link, and I see a pic of a rear bumper. Strike that comment. And upon closer inspection, it may have had a partial repaint. The left rear corner has definitely been repaired and painted, and the passenger side appears to be a slightly different shade of red. Could just need a good clean and buff, though.
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A nice, clean, shiny bus. Looks to be very solid and complete.
Roof, bumpers and wheels have been repainted the wrong color. Body has been repainted, color looks slightly off but it's pretty nice in the pics. Mechanically sound. It's a 70, which for early bay buyers is less desirable than a 68 or a 71.
I prefer original paint, as it hides nothing and tells a story. Many people prefer shiny new paint, as it is shiny and new so it must be better somehow. I would guess that this bus is realistically an $8K bus. Maybe more in the eyes of a Raven who likes shiny stuff.
The fact that it has been for sale for half a year tells you something, too.
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Only if rusty poles are nos!
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| RocketSurgeon wrote: | | Only if rusty poles are nos! |
Thats just a relative statement  How rusty, rusty from what? Describe what you think is rusty? Rusted through or growth on unprotected steel caused by moisture in the air......
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| Quote: | | VW buss tent - $1000 (placerville) |
The extra s costs.
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The extra s costs. |
I think that was one year only! 
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I don't know, doesn't really seem all that far off to me. Granted it's not a camper, still rust-free, straight and complete.
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