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mclynch310
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 Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject: engine not turning over |
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| when i click the starter over, the fan goes real slow over and over like the belts on too tight or it does not have enough battery. i tested the battery and its 12v so..could my aftermarket engine tin not be installed right and be rubbing metal slowing it down? also i hear a short whissping sound like air is leaking. my body is off the chassis so every things easy to look at |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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belt. how much can you squeeze the belt together? will the fan move freely with the belt off?
did you move the distributor/timing? loosen the dist clamp a little and while crank move the distributor (if looking down at it) a little bit at a time clockwise and see if the engine spins faster.
do you have 12 volt on the positive side of the coil? |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: engine not turning over |
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| mclynch310 wrote: |
| i tested the battery and its 12v |
Unfortunately, that test doesn't tell much. All that "rest" voltage tells you is that it's not 10 volt or 8 volt, which is obviously bad.
It's voltage across the battery WHILE under load while trying to crank 10 seconds that's relevant, measure and post that. It should be 9.6 volts or better doing that. If the engine doesn't spin fast enough, it won't start.
Try jump starting.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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More testing is required for great answers.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| The first step is to charge the battery then continue with diagnostics. The 12v means little, CCA (cold cranking amps) is the important reading. |
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mclynch310
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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i would like to know what else i need to keep the engine turned over
on the coil i have 2 wires going to each side of carbs and the ignition wire going to positive side
then the distributer wires on the negative side.
nothing on my alternator
spark plugs are in
I'm hearing a whissping sound like I'm loosing compression somewhere
when i hit the starter i hear a click and thats it, and the fan turns slowly
any of this help |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| The fan will turn only if the engine is turning. A click can sometimes mean a bad connection at the battery, a starter solenoid not working or a discharged battery that has enough power to activate the solenoid (the click) but does not have enough power to spin the engine. It could be a bad starter also. Clean all of the connections to the battery and starter. The engine is not going to run until you get it to turn over at an adequate speed with the starter. |
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mclynch310
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| thank you I'm going to check if it keeps at 9.6 volts or higher |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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I'm hearing a whissping sound like I'm loosing compression somewhere when i hit the starter i hear a click and thats it, and the fan turns slowly any of this help |
If starter is turning the engine, then the engine is turning over. It is just not firing!
Yes you are loosing compression due to the engine is NOT up to operating temp when all the parts in there swell up and seal better, and even then there is no such thing as perfectly absolutely sealing piston rings.
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| mclynch310 wrote: |
when i hit the starter i hear a click and thats it, and the fan turns slowly
any of this help |
is the starter turning the engine? the fan will not turn if the starter is not turning the engine. sounds like you are saying the starter solenoid is clicking but the starter is not turning but the fan is moving. you have me confused with your statement.
if the valves are not adjusted correctly then you could be loosing compression or getting blow back through the carb. |
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mclynch310
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| the battery read 8.2 as i held the starter on, is that the cause? |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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maybe bow back from the carb, should the hole on the side be closed off? i believe on the intake mani
the fan has slow revolutions but the battery is reading 8.2 while I'm trying to start it. that may be the problem
does the alt have anything to do with it? its not wired up but that may not have anything to do with what I'm looking for and thats just getting a smooth fan turn
i didn't wanna say it but i was given an aftermarket fan housing that could not be seated correctly right? is that a common problem? |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| mclynch310 wrote: |
| the battery read 8.2 as i held the starter on, is that the cause? |
Well that is not helping!! Time to charge it up. If you already have then time to have battery tested.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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the alternator does not have to be wired to start the engine but the battery will drain slowly with the engine running.
take the fan belt off and see if the alternator pulley/fan turns freely or is dragging.
then try cranking the engine to see if it cranks faster. if it starts then don't let it run for more than a minute.
ALL unused vacuum ports on the carb and intake should be plugged.
i thought about this after i posted earlier. if the timing is off or the spark plug wires on the distributor are in the wrong order then you will get backfire out of the carb. |
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maybe bow back from the carb, should the hole on the side be closed off? i believe on the intake mani
the fan has slow revolutions but the battery is reading 8.2 while I'm trying to start it. that may be the problem
does the alt have anything to do with it? its not wired up but that may not have anything to do with what I'm looking for and thats just getting a smooth fan turn
i didn't wanna say it but i was given an aftermarket fan housing that could not be seated correctly right? is that a common problem? |
Bow back from the carb?? What hole on the carb??? Images please. Believe on intake mani what?
Slow down and double check what you are typing please.
Alt is not going to put out voltage till you have the engine running well above 500 RPM.
As posted before, remove fan belt and check if alt/fan can be easily turned by hand, and if it rubs.
If you mean the shroud is not seated correctly in the head tin it sounds more like you do not have parts together properly.
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mclynch310
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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the fan turns freely while the belt is loose so i believe thats not the problem.
i tested it and its reading average 8.2 while I'm trying the starter, the fan slowly goes around so it must be the battery right?
are the spark plug wires supposed to go facing each cylinder because i read to switch the 1 and 2 on the distributer so maybe thats my problem too |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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 this hole should be covered? |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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getting german braided fuel lines just trying to get it going again and i don't have clamps on either 
also the top fuel lone goes to fuel tank and bottom line goes to the top of the carb right |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| this hole should be covered? |
yes |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| thank you, any ideas what to use since i prob won't find that piece? |
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