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heyleele
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 Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:10 pm Post subject: greasy in the garage and hmm..to bearing and this bushing |
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hey guys the guy at the vw gave me this bushing said i need it with my clutch job anyone know whereit goes...didnt have one on when i took it all out.
http://www.geocities.com/heyleele/bushing.jpg
also can anyone tell me how this new t/o bearing goes in...is this the right way..i wasnt paying attention when i took it out...
http://www.geocities.com/heyleele/to.jpg
3.also dont have moly powder or emory cloth for the inside of this t/o bearing any alternatives?
thanks guys
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EvilBus
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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you don't need the bushing, the Gland nut on the crankshaft has roller bearings so, grease them up before installing the clutch.
The throwout bearing mounts onto the cross-shaft with the two clips.
It slides, in your case, on the pilot tube. There's two protrusions that line up with corresponding grooves in the cross-shaft. The clips go in an indentation on the mainshaft and hold the T/O bearing against the cross-shaft.
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heyleele
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:49 am Post subject: ? |
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| is that with round spring part pointing down or pointing up..i understands how it hooks in but it looks like it can go both ways. just spin it 180 degrees in the pic and the round spring apex part is pointing up..it can hook in the retaining notch in the back also |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:31 am Post subject: Re: ? |
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| heyleele wrote: | | is that with round spring part pointing down or pointing up..i understands how it hooks in but it looks like it can go both ways. just spin it 180 degrees in the pic and the round spring apex part is pointing up..it can hook in the retaining notch in the back also |
The Throwout Bearing has a rotating face surface that goes against the clutch, that's the bearing surface that takes the load. On the bearing there are two round protrusions sticking out, these are the ears or dogs as they're called, these fit into the recesses that are on the arms that are on the cross-shaft. The arms hang vertically, down, from the cross-shaft.
It's important that the dogs are in the recesses on the arms to align the throwout bearing properly.
The rotating face on the throwout bearing therefore faces the motor.
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Also in re-reading your question, the spring has a loop in it, it points away from the throwout bearing horizontally, the flat leg on the spring goes into the dog on the throwout bearing, the hooked side goes around behind
the arm on the cross shaft. There's a small groove on the back of the arm, that's where the hooked side goes, remember, the hook wraps
around behind the arm.
This is what holds the bearing onto the arm.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| Are you sure that "bushing" is'nt a new input shaft seal ? |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| Is it rubber or metal |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:46 am Post subject: |
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yeah, it looked metal to me, didn't look rubber. Good question..
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heyleele
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:54 am Post subject: its rubber |
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| hey guys that bushing seal thingie is rubber..my bus never had one on there..none of the manuals i have... muir, haynes, or bentley even mentions it as part of a clutch job or rear tranny part |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:02 am Post subject: Re: its rubber |
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| heyleele wrote: | | hey guys that bushing seal thingie is rubber..my bus never had one on there..none of the manuals i have... muir, haynes, or bentley even mentions it as part of a clutch job or rear tranny part |
Actually, you do, it's hidden then, you need to remove the three bolts on the tube that the throwout bearing goes over, the seal is under that. YOu have a later transmission with the pilot tube (the tube keeps the T/O Bearing parallel to the clutch springs. Your clutch should also not have a round ring on the springs, right?
Sorry, I thought from the picture that it was a bronze bushing, my eyes aren't what they used to be. 
I had a guy last year try and sell me a bronze bushing for my 59... "You'll need this."  That's what I get for going to Napa.
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It's the seal for the input shaft on your tranny. Pull the old one out and put this one in with a thin coat of sealer around the out side of the seal.
If you don't have any non harding sealer then you can install it dry. the sealer just make sit easier and helps to hold it in. |
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heyleele
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:27 pm Post subject: sealer |
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| thxxxxx!! is that sealer aka rtv silicone gasket sealer stuff? what does the bushing do? keep tranny oil from leaking? here is a virtual beer to all! |
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heyleele
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:29 pm Post subject: round thing on the springs |
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| 10-4 my clutch springs do not have a round thing on the end |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I use just about anything, rtv or permatex. just make it thin, not a big gop. idea is the sealer will act as a lube, then later it will dry and help glue the thing in place. The seals purpose is to keep oil in the tranny and dirt out. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: round thing on the springs |
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| heyleele wrote: | | 10-4 my clutch springs do not have a round thing on the end |
They should have a round loop
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heyleele
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:49 pm Post subject: tranny seal |
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| hey guys i tried to take that input shaft seal in..but it wont come out with a screwdriver..any tools that can make this easier? |
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heyleele
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| got it in right..loops point down ! thx guys |
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