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chthemonkey Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2008 Posts: 56 Location: united kingdom
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:53 am Post subject: Dating of a engine |
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i have a engine with a date stamp of 1-0334378 (august 1951) with a A on the end and KD on another side of the stand which i think means its factory rebuilt the casting numbers are
generator side= 4 8 10 on the gen stand and 01 02 4 on the base of the
engine. side of the oil pan
near the fuel
pump = 3 8 10 near the fuel pump and 01 01 4 on the base of the
engine. side of the oil pan
any help with finding the original date
thanks
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Pictures of each of these areas would be helpful. |
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chthemonkey Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:46 am Post subject: |
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volksfahrer Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:17 am Post subject: |
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A means Austausch (exchange/change/ rebuilt)
KD means Kundendienst...a Volkswagen-rebuilt engine |
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chthemonkey Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:48 am Post subject: |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Based on this casting date,
4 08 10
August 4, 1950 first shift. the number behind the pulley should be identical or within a day. You say it is a 3 so it is
the numbers on the oil sump sides are not date numbers
The stamped in number is probalby the exchange serial number
The number in the typical location on the rear of the generator stand could have been the original engine number of the case that was later rebuilt. |
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chthemonkey Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:00 am Post subject: |
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thanks
what do you think i should do i'm rebuilding it but should i rebuild it and sell it and find another one near aug/sept 51 or run it. the beetle has a 74 engine and trans in at the mo and i've got a 49 deluxe trans go on the engine when rebuilt
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beetleseb Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:45 am Post subject: |
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Its always worth looking for a later case. Especially if you can find someone to swap with. Its always worth a hour or two ringing the usual suspects in the UK! Then you rebuild with that case with all the other parts off yours
I have a early 52 block (need to double check the date) that I would swap for something nearer my june 50, still a little way off but closer. _________________ Wanted - OG 50 split bug door panels, brown mats and old running boards |
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beetleseb Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:43 am Post subject: |
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I was miles off as my case is dec 1950!! So no real improvement for you!
Still worth a ring around a few of the vintage guys and dealers tho _________________ Wanted - OG 50 split bug door panels, brown mats and old running boards |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:37 am Post subject: |
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i've got a 49 deluxe trans go on the engine when rebuilt
chris |
What's a 49 deluxe trans? |
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chthemonkey Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:34 am Post subject: |
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What's a 49 deluxe trans?[/quote]
i'm not quite sure its got the area to attach the starter motor which i thought standards dident have |
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chthemonkey Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:39 am Post subject: |
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I've decided to rebuild it anyway as I've already started taking the case apart. has anyone got any ideas on how to get the last cylinder head stud off as there's not allot of space left for the allenkey/socket its like the rod is abit longer than the rest  |
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beetleseb Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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I welded a nut to a bolt with the right sized head and used that. Worked a treat
Seb _________________ Wanted - OG 50 split bug door panels, brown mats and old running boards |
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johnshenry Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| nlorntson wrote: |
| chthemonkey wrote: |
i've got a 49 deluxe trans go on the engine when rebuilt
chris |
What's a 49 deluxe trans? |
Its got a gold plated throwout bearing fork and pleated leather panels Along the sides with ivory piping. _________________ John Henry
'57 Deluxe
'51 11E Standard Sunroof (PhotoBucket resto pics) |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| johnshenry wrote: |
| nlorntson wrote: |
| chthemonkey wrote: |
i've got a 49 deluxe trans go on the engine when rebuilt
chris |
What's a 49 deluxe trans? |
Its got a gold plated throwout bearing fork and pleated leather panels Along the sides with ivory piping. |
LOL
I guess I have some more parts to find for my 49 deluxe. |
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vwclap Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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I found and old block with these 01.01.4 number, and appears date oct 53...I have another block that at the same place has 111 xxx xxx number.
Is the multiple number appears after the 01 01 4 number. What means that number
regards
Claude _________________ Claude
cox 1956, 1962 et 1975
Split panel 1963
Samba 21 fenetres 1966
Ghia 1968
Sport Ghia 73
West 1970
Jetta 1992
Jetta tdi 2002
Jetta TDI 2006
West Multivan 2002
2 x Golf city 2007 |
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vwclap Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:35 am Post subject: |
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I found the answer in that post
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=376019 _________________ Claude
cox 1956, 1962 et 1975
Split panel 1963
Samba 21 fenetres 1966
Ghia 1968
Sport Ghia 73
West 1970
Jetta 1992
Jetta tdi 2002
Jetta TDI 2006
West Multivan 2002
2 x Golf city 2007 |
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