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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe you are looking for Awesome Powdercoats Pics.
He is also an advertiser and contributor on here.
http://awesomepowdercoat.com/Original_German_Engine_Tin.html
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yamaducci wrote:
I believe you are looking for Awesome Powdercoats Pics.
He is also an advertiser and contributor on here.
http://awesomepowdercoat.com/Original_German_Engine_Tin.html


Wow, yes. That is exactly what I needed. Great source. Im suprised there is not a sticky regarding tin....unless Im missing something.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To answer your question, those little air dams go on the underside of the heads. Those little tabs just get pushed between the fins to hold it in.

Just like in BWD's picture.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a T4 engine, will ALL of the 1800 tins fit a 1700 T4?


Considering they are both NOT upright engines.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JustBuggy wrote:
On a T4 engine, will ALL of the 1800 tins fit a 1700 T4?


Considering they are both NOT upright engines.


Ha! This is one I think i can actually answer. for once (i think). Yes, all of the tin is the same from a 17-1800 type IV. I know way more about the type IV than I do the type I's. If I am wrong, someone will chime in but the ONLY difference in the 17 vs 1800 is the size of the pistons.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the missing cylinder head tiny-tins (off strumming their ukeleles and singing in falsetto), it really is a very simple one to make IF you have a pattern of some sort. It might be commercially viable to sell little cardstock templates for something on the order of $1. Just about anyone can churn out more than their wage in an hour, and thus make a profit (not considering overhead). A product testing phase (put it up to see how it sells) wouldn't cost much either. It would just cost a piece of card stock and an hour or so to churn out a hundred of them and shove them in a folder. $1 is a reasonable price for something like that (especially if you need it), and it would be doing the air cooled world a favor. It is the sort of thing that would require someone with a known and trusted presence (like ACN) to be able to get them out there in any volume. In other words, if I were to make them and throw them up on the Classifieds, no one would take notice. If John were to do so, it would lend credibility to the product from the start (a lot of people don't even know they're missing) and simultaneously serve as a sounding board to build awareness that the need for the product exists.

That's my entrepreneurial $0.02.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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this thread had a ton of good pics. This is why you should NOT use photoshare sites for threads

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=113660

Here is a shroud thread

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=492074


and a few more

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=401943

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416096

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=471358
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BWD wrote:


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What does this little piece do and do I need to fabricate one if I don't have it?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BWD wrote:


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What does this little piece do and do I need to fabricate one if I don't have it?


Who can dig in their scrap pile and send me a couple of those? I will send you $10 PayPal.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

derluftwagen wrote:
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this thread had a ton of good pics. This is why you should NOT use photoshare sites for threads

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=113660

Here is a shroud thread

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=492074


and a few more

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=401943

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416096

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=471358


So much great info, thank you! Anyone have a pic of 8b? I cant seem to figure out what that piece is.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

busmania wrote:
derluftwagen wrote:
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

this thread had a ton of good pics. This is why you should NOT use photoshare sites for threads

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=113660

Here is a shroud thread

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=492074


and a few more

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=401943

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416096

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=471358


So much great info, thank you! Anyone have a pic of 8b? I cant seem to figure out what that piece is.
8a and 8b are industrial sled tins, for use without heater boxes.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

derluftwagen wrote:
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Great exploded view!

Have to got an exploded view that you can share like this for a 1700 T4?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you going for a historically correct engine tin engine,like concours stuff? Just wondering why no one has posted super cool tin (type 3) cylinder tin?
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This has always been recommended to me with any build.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Type III tin is for Type III, not Type I, even though it will fit. Its not better for a Type I
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The above threads were there to read.

busmania wrote:
So much great info, thank you! Anyone have a pic of 8b? I cant seem to figure out what that piece is.


Below is a pic of the tin and a drawing with dimensions so you can make your own.

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Dimensions:

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JustBuggy wrote:
Great exploded view!

Have to got an exploded view that you can share like this for a 1700 T4?


Sorry nothing for type 4




flemcadiddlehopper wrote:
Are you going for a historically correct engine tin engine,like concours stuff? Just wondering why no one has posted super cool tin (type 3) cylinder tin?
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen..

This has always been recommended to me with any build.

Gordo.


chrisflstf wrote:
Type III tin is for Type III, not Type I, even though it will fit. Its not better for a Type I


Bob Hoover would disagree.

In a situation where no sleds can be used (merged header/baja) modified "cool tin" is worth it. If sleds can be used stick with the stock square deflector tin and the industrial tin or heater box.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to share that in 4 bugs i had in the past always that little piece been missing Shocked
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