Front Drum brake. What year is it?

Mowgli25 · Last edited by Mowgli25 on Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:11 pm; edited 1 time in total

updated on second page-now trying to figure out front brakes

I have this drum brake set up that I need to get the parts for. He said it was a 67 brake set up but is there a way to tell for sure before I order parts? This is all that it had
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dakdak · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:14 am Post subject:

Try these links out at CIP1.

http://www2.cip1.com/searchresults.asp?cat=1083

http://www2.cip1.com/searchresults.asp?cat=1082

I think the main difference in the US models is that they went disk brakes at the front. The rear drums should still be the same from the 1964/65 models till 1967.

Hope this helps.
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Mowgli25 · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:05 am Post subject:

It does have drum in the front also

Mowgli25 · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:28 am Post subject:

This may help. I have link pin in the front and I think swing axle in the rear. I have the bad camber problem so I'm guessing it is swing

Keith · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:34 am Post subject:

vwsteve · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:14 pm Post subject:

It is older than 67. If the slots in the adjusters are not sloped, and I don't think they are, then it is older than 65.

61SNRF · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject:

True, it's not from a '67 Beetle. The block that holds the adjusters on the backing plate would be square, and the bearing cap would have a shielded or covered seal.

It looks more like 58-64, so it would probably be a safe bet to get parts for them to try first.
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cugir · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:17 pm Post subject:

here is a 67 rear drum plate

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Mowgli25 · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject:

Okay ordered the parts for a 58-64. Got the pads for 18 and the drum spring kit for 14. Will I be able to set up the brakes without the parts for the handbrake in there?

YouBugMe58 · Samba Member Joined: December 29, 2011 Posts: 261

Just for the record, here is my 59 before I disassembled it.
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I haven't reassembled it yet.
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bill may · Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:30 am Post subject:

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Mowgli25 · Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject:

Will I need any special tool to do the brakes?

You said his pictures was missing the hold down pins springs and washers. Do rebuild kits come with that?

cugir · Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:17 am Post subject:

Mowgli25 · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:42 pm Post subject:

How can I check to make sure the fronts are the same year? It is a link pin front

Mowgli25 · Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject:

okay well bringing this back up. i took both sides apart and this is what i found.

right side
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left side. the drum is different and it seems wider than the other.
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AlteWagen · Troll Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 5362

the only available reproduction brake drums are the late 64-67 type. The early drums (58-64) have not been made for years.

You can tell the difference by looking at the front of the drum, early drums have a smooth cone while late have "spokes".

Early
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Late

the late spoke drums will work on 58-64 backing plates and shoes but will have extra space that wont be used due to the narrower parts.

The bearing retainer you have on the last pic is an earlier one that uses a "oil slinger" that keeps the drips off your shoes. as seen in this pic

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On the repro drums you may have to drill the side exit hole if using the slingers. I would recommend later bearing retainers that have the drip exit the backing plate.

vw57drvr · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:50 pm Post subject:

67 had ball joint front end. 65 and earlier had link pin.
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AlteWagen · Troll Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 5362

Being that this is a sand rail type buggy the parts are all mismatched.

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The custom engine paint (BTW you are now famous in the abortion engine thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=499737&start=188 ) shows the PO was kind of a hack so what you have will be all over the place.

Link pin is a stronger unit than a BJ front end, better for offroad

Renowood · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:38 pm Post subject:

I'd replace those axles seals while your in there. Also i didn't see any axle boots installed.

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