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JakeBrown Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2012 Posts: 6 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: First time sand rail/vw owner clueless a lot of questions. |
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Hello all. I recently traded a Kawasaki dualsport for the sand rail I own currently. A great trade, I think! I love this thing so much fun. I do realize I'm absolutely clueless with this though so after lurking on the site a few days I have some questions for you
First off to give a generalized idea of what kind of buggy we're talking about here's an overall picture:
The tires on this thing seem to be a shade too big, wide that is. Wouldn't it perform better with smaller rear tires? Currently it has 31x10.5x15 on it in the rear. Would it run better and faster with smaller tires width-wise?
It appears to have a standard kingpin front end, the year I have no idea, I also have no idea how to service the steering gear box. Is there anything I need to do to keep this in good working order? Does it require fluid?
The shocks, I'm assuming are just stock VW shocks, but what year? Where would I find replacements? I'm not looking to upgrade, just put some newer more able stock replacements on there.
Do both clutch and brake resevoirs use just standard brake fluid? It is a CNC set up.
I'm assuming this is a swingaxle setup, It looks to be a bug transmission, is this right? What kind of fluid do I use in this transmission, and do I check the fluid by just ramming my pinky in there and feeling around like a differential? I was told it has close ratio 3rd and 4th gears...does this improve offroad torque or on road top speed? This is going to be mostly a street buggy.
This is a Delorto carb. I have no idea what model, do you? Id like to get some new airfilters for it, but I'm not sure what model to order for?
As far as routine maintenance goes..The buggy starts right up, takes about 3 minutes to warm up and just runs tops. I'm thinking I shouldn't worry about a tune up or anything at the moment, or would it be a good idea to go ahead and do the valve check and plugs etc the next time I change the oil?
Lastly, It would appear the rail has a remote oil system of some sort I've read about on here. What are the two things pictured above behind the doghouse? 1 is an oil cooler I'm certain. Is this an aftermarket upgrade?
The engine I was told, is a 1776. So in order to get fitting aftermarket parts would I purchase things for a 1600cc?? |
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77charger Samba Member
Joined: November 12, 2005 Posts: 1492
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like bugpack fugitive chasis
Tires are fine
shocks look like standard white KYBs
standard brake fluid id fine
swing axle set up
as for checking trans gear oil theres a fill plug on drivers side about 1/2 way up should us e a17mm allen wrench you should be able to open it and stick finger i there and feel oil.Normally fill to bottom of hole.
Close ratio gears are better for torque and able to use all gears esp in sand dunes.Keeps from having big rpm drops between gears.Downside dont expect to cruise past 45 mph without going over 3000rpm.
Maint you sound like you are on the right path. _________________ Click to view image
Bugpack 4 seater rail
2275 built by me
Auto linea alm case,82 dpr crank wedgemated by DK machine
cb 5.4 h beams,12 pound DPR f/w,Slr xv294cam,cb straight cuts,hpmx 44s,40x35 heads ported by brothers machine |
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77charger Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Oh last thing the small box is a breather its fine there.Thefinned deal is you oil cooler.IMO lousy spot for it move it away from fan opening you are preheating air that cools the engine. _________________ Click to view image
Bugpack 4 seater rail
2275 built by me
Auto linea alm case,82 dpr crank wedgemated by DK machine
cb 5.4 h beams,12 pound DPR f/w,Slr xv294cam,cb straight cuts,hpmx 44s,40x35 heads ported by brothers machine |
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Bashr52 Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2006 Posts: 5666 Location: On an island in VA
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:19 am Post subject: |
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77charger wrote: |
Oh last thing the small box is a breather its fine there.Thefinned deal is you oil cooler.IMO lousy spot for it move it away from fan opening you are preheating air that cools the engine. |
X2, leave the breather there if you're happy with it, but get rid of that oil cooler location. There is a frame tube right there, I'd mount it to that. |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20377 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:42 am Post subject: |
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77charger wrote: |
The finned deal is you oil cooler.IMO lousy spot for it move it away from fan opening you are preheating air that cools the engine. |
Agreed ... Move it away from fan inlet..... Old school thinking was you needed to pull air through cooler to cool oil... That has been proven false and you are only preheating your cylinder cooling air, and it sort of defeats the purpose of cylinder cooling....
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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JakeBrown Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2012 Posts: 6 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info. I will get that oil cooler moved before this summer for certain! How big a deal is it? Does it need to be addressed immediately? We're getting into the 80's here now. |
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77charger Samba Member
Joined: November 12, 2005 Posts: 1492
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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JakeBrown wrote: |
Thanks for the info. I will get that oil cooler moved before this summer for certain! How big a deal is it? Does it need to be addressed immediately? We're getting into the 80's here now. |
Not asap but definitely do get it done soon or before any longer trips.Like mentioned you could mount it on the tubing above it _________________ Click to view image
Bugpack 4 seater rail
2275 built by me
Auto linea alm case,82 dpr crank wedgemated by DK machine
cb 5.4 h beams,12 pound DPR f/w,Slr xv294cam,cb straight cuts,hpmx 44s,40x35 heads ported by brothers machine |
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ZARJDR Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2008 Posts: 1039 Location: Eureka, Ca
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Carbs look like DRLA's others can give more info. The link pin front shocks are all pretty much the same as mounting goes, your front beam is actually two front beams welded together it looks like, as it is considerably wider than a stock one. _________________ 2006 RAM 1500 HEMI 4X4 92 LT250
06 Raptor DP1776 Sandrail
02 HONDA 400EX
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JakeBrown Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2012 Posts: 6 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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I was actually told that by the owner I bought it from. Is that going to affect the shocks that I can put on it? What would be the reason for welding those together like that?? |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20377 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:21 am Post subject: |
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The wider front beams were a attempt to get a wider track to increase stability and a attempt to make it harder to roll buggy.....
Should have no effect on shocks, any shock designed for "link pin" from end should work....
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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JakeBrown Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2012 Posts: 6 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Link pin or king pin? Are they the same thing? |
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joshuaj75 Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2009 Posts: 20 Location: az
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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same thing |
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bajamike560 Samba Member
Joined: December 11, 2009 Posts: 544 Location: Vancouver WA
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to the board, nice looking rail.
Yes same thing, link and king pin front beam.
Mike _________________ Jackpot motorsports |
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Mal evolent Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2009 Posts: 2912 Location: San Antonio, Nuevo Mexico
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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if one is all anal retentive fussy... King pin is what the spindle rotates on vertically, link pins are what the connects the trailing arm to the spindles horizontally. king pin front ends have link pins; link pin front ends have king pins.
ball joints do both. _________________ 73 Beetle Baja, Ghia front brakes, Type 3 rear brakes, 2220 ( 94 X 80 ), Weber Progressive, Bosch SVDA, '97 Mustang seats
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JakeBrown Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2012 Posts: 6 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Ok good info.
Thanks bajamike.
Damned if this thing doesn't have me wanting a baja bug now! |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2003 Posts: 591 Location: Florida Space Coast
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Looks like a standard vw steering box, use the instructions for stock maintenance. You could add a stabilizer to the front.
I would think the terrain you drive on would determine the tire width you need. Softer sand or mud, wider tire. _________________ 1974 Standard Beetle to Baja Bug
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shmoe2k Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2009 Posts: 160 Location: Camarillo, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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I would recommend a book call "How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive 19 Ed: A Manual of Step-by-Step Procedures for the Compleat Idiot" Buy this book. I have been a tech for over 20 years and i still have my book that i bought in the late 80's. Still today i will look thru it for info. Its a great book for VW's. _________________ www.berginsauto.com |
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JakeBrown Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2012 Posts: 6 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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I just bought that book today, and came home to see this. I guess I'm on the right track. I should probably find some street tires for the back since I'm primarily using it on the road? |
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