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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:25 am    Post subject: DIY truck bed liner on floor pans Reply with quote

has anyone done this? I want to do top and bottom of pans, rear seat backs, luggage shelf. looking for recomended brands. ie. duplacolor?
I have been putting this off till I decided on seats, seats are in, now its time. I have a compressure so I could spray it, would need a gun.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used Duplicolor Bed Armor on my pans and rear shelf area. I've had a couple of spots on the floor flake. I properly prepped the area with the scotchbrite pads and sandpaper, but I'm not overly impressed with it. It looks great, but I'm not sold on the durability. I really don't see it holding up in truck beds! GI JOE used the same material and I think he told me that he wasn't overly impressed either. Perhaps there are other brands that might be more tough?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dell is correct. I wouldn't put this stuff in a true High use area. I chose it for a couple reasons.. 1- Price. 2-touch-upability... I figure if it does get scarred, I can grab an aerosol can and spritz some over the affected area and that'll be that. I used the aerosol version on my bumpers and it seems to be decently tough.
Look in my build thread for pics on coverage area...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the other two posters have pointed out, most truck bed paints bond rather poorly with the pans. Perhaps there is a good method of prepping them, but I don' know what it is.

If you do go this route, get rid of any and all rust, put a good anti-rust primer on there, and at least a basic layer of paint down first. Water will get under your bed liner at some point, and your floor will soon become a nasty mess of rubber coated rust. Trust me, I had to cut out my pans after finally discovering that the drivers seat track was just about to fall through. It wasn't visible until I started poking around with a screwdriver, at which point a 12in x 1/2in piece of the pan practically fell out.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completely disagree. I used Duplicolor over POR15 and it is great. Even in high traffic area. Nothing has lifted as of yet, and it has been over 6 months. The only thing I would have done differently was use a stiffer brush and not use the roller to avoid large snot balls. The 1st part of installation looks slightly worse than the 2nd.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used Herculiner on 30+ pans, top and bottom. I bought the spray gun and it goes on nice that way. You can also roll it on. If the pan is prepped right, it wont come off. Best bet is to have the pan media blasted and apply to bare metal. But I have done a few with just wire wheeling them and wiping down with paint thinner. In about 7 years I have never had an issue with it lifting. Several of my customers cars we have done are not running carpet, just the bed liner, and it holds up fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

after advice here and reading on the web, I think herculiner might be the winner. having a color besides black is nice. probably going with the grey.
Thanks for the input.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the liner boys. I did my whole interior except the doors. I did my pans with the bed Armour and the rest with Proform. Bed Armour is like a rubber type finish that collects dirt and dust easily and hard to clean. The Proform is a harder glossier finish that I prefer. Easy to clean and tough. I put a layer of por 15 down on everything first and then sprayed the liner four hours later with a Schutz gun hooked to my compressor. I also used an inline filter to collect any water that was in the air supply. I have some pics on my build page check it out.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bed liner makes future bodywork much more difficult.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but nothing a grinding wheel couldn't take care of. Messier for sure
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point Yellow73..

I prepped all areas according the the Masterseries instructions, and put a couple coats of that down first. Then applied the duplicolor over that.

I agree with Saddlesore too, The "snot balls" are kinds ugly, but the roller was a PITA and I finished it with a brush.
I can't fully verify durability, as Our Thing is Very light duty fair weather cruiser so i've never tested it. I know Saddlesore uses his to it's fullest, so if he vouches for it, then I'd have no reason to doubt him. I may have applied mine too thin, or in improper humidity levels.... ?????
I just know it's easy to scratch the backs of the seats as I had issue there when installing them....

I'd do a Line-X or Rhino if the $$ was available.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a guy at Vintage Meet last year that had his entire trunk area and floorpan professionally sprayed with bed-liner. Have to say it looked pretty good. Not too sure what kind of prep the pros do before putting on that stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an available product when I had my recon business. The prep was no more than scuffing, spraying an adhesion promoter, then mixing and spraying the product. unfortunatly I closed the business and sold all my gear before tearing into Our Thing for the freshening...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Por-15 all the way. If you prep it right the Por-15 is tougher than shit
and I never had any rust come back through Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check me on this. If you use POR-15 on an area that is exposed to sunlight you're supposed to top coat it with something else, right? I heard POR-15 will fade with sun exposure.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I for one am not sold on the POR 15. I have a friend that has a camaro front sub frame that he stripped and coated with POR 15 several years ago. He left it sit out for about 3 years and ther is rust showing through it already. We live in AZ where wet weather is at a minimum.

And for the nay sayers, it was stripped and coated correctly.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

por15 is great when done right. did a nos pan with it in my last thing. current one has pretty good pans, small rust hole under battery, might por15 that spot, have some unopened cans left. that and the cloth that came with it. then bedline over that
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

POR 15 must be top coated. It is not UV stable. If you neglect to top coat it, especially in a sunny climate, it will revert to the same level of protection as normal primer. A few years down the road you will have rust.

If you want a similar water cured polyurethane primer paint that is UV stable and does not require a top coat, you may want to look at the PM Industries "masterseries" product.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Por 15 then topcoat with your Bedliner. Wait 4 ish hours to give it some flash time, don't let it dry and then topcoat. You won't get good adhesion.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i keep my pan treated with black rustoleum as needed. My grandfather has been doing this since he bought it in 1985. he kept the battery in a plasitc marine box. my pan has no rot anywhere.
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