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joestoby
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 Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject: 914 Djet connectors |
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| I am looking for the crimp on connectors for my 914 D Jet harness I have scoured this forum, people talk about getting them or they can be got but no one says where. Thanks. |
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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For which end? The ECU end or component end?
The ECU ends are virtually (but not totally) unobtanium...although Amp has roughly 10,000 in stick. They may have relaxed in the past few years. There are a few answers to not having them. Let me know if you need to know more.
I will dig up a few links to where you can get the female component end connectors. Get new plugs too.
In fact...really...just build a new harness if you are not already. Much better. Ray |
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joestoby
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| I need the connectors for the injectors two of them are gone. i have gone through the harness and re shrink tubed and found the rubber boots ijust need some connectors. |
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:22 am Post subject: |
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Just letting you know....if the harnes needed new shrink tubing...because the old harness covering was cracked and brittle....its time for a new harness. Over 95% of all tuning issues with D-jet are due to old harness issues and connectors.
That being said...let me look up a few places you can get these....and..they must be criped with a proper crimper...no solder allowed.
You can buy thehttp://www.germansupply.com/home/customer/home.php?cat=390m here:
bottom of this page.
Ray |
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JustBuggy
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:27 am Post subject: |
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I fixed the link, hope that you don't mind Ray ....... |
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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 Thank you!
Ray |
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ottovu
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:30 pm Post subject: repairing connectors |
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| Why no solder Ray? No acid core, obviously, but none at all? kb |
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: repairing connectors |
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| ottovu wrote: |
| Why no solder Ray? No acid core, obviously, but none at all? kb |
You will notice...that o utside of the original Bendix early version of D-jet....that failed....that there is not a single EFI system made world wide (nor has there ever been)....with solder joints within is flexible wire harness system.
You can joint a flexible wire that is not planned to ever be disconnected...to a rigid board with solder (as long as you have strain relief)...and you can joint a solid part (resistor, inductor, transistor, chip holder etc.)...with solder...............but in a flexible harnes that is subject to constant vibration, moisture, oil, heat expansion etc.....
you sooner or later get voids within the solder exploited into cracks...no matter how good you think you are at soldering.
With millivolt differences making changes within the system....once this starts...and it may be at 50 miles or 150,000 miles....you will hang yourself from a streetlamp from the insanity of chasing these gremlins downs because they come and go at any change in vibrational picth from rpm and temperature.
This makes the system unwarrantable to the OEMS.
Add to that, there is an entire international technical society dovoted to crimping and it is a very exact science wherin with a proper crimp..stranded wire becomes a solid core with no air voids....hermetically sealed.
The D-jet wiring connector was already the most miserable one ever made. Don't compound your insanity.
Old D and L jet wiring harnesses already give problems even with perfect connector when the insulation gets cripsy and you get those circular ring cracks in the middle of the harness.
This why there is no place in the harness for solder.
The engineers I know argue this to the bone...mainly because they are all taught to solder as a technical artform and refuse to believe that they could make a poor joint. Even the best solder joint is a poor choice for a fuel injection harness. Its simply the wrong application. Ray |
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ottovu
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds reasonable, I have spent countless hours chasing connection quality issues on this system used on Mercedes Benz. kb |
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mtwrench540
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:30 pm Post subject: connectors |
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wurth will have the crimp-on connectors as well as the proper tool,i have one,but not willing to part with it!!
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Paladin makes a crimper tool that will last forever....fully adjustable...intechangeble dies....and far cheaper than the Wurth tool. Paladin also makes the best quality dies.
There are several other Paladin knock offs that are in the $45 range and will take Paladin dies.
Eclipse makes one that is a Paldin knock off and is superb quality
Item # 300-001 $34.20 (Lunar Series) Here:
http://www.starkelectronic.com/eclcrimp.htm
This one from S&G willdo fine for most and is cheap and will fit Paladin dies....its about $29
http://www.amazon.com/Tool-Aid-18900-Professional-...amp;sr=8-3
Here is Paladins whttp://www.paladin-tools.com/ed site;
If you buy two main die sets...about $30 each from one of their dealers...they will do factory crimps on every single connector in your entire Porsche or ACVW.
You can generally find Paladin crimper frames on sale for between $50 and $80.
let me know if you need die set part #'s that will allow you to crimp all of your D-jet and chasssis wires. Ray |
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