59 Ghia. Door window fitment.

Suicidesplit51 · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:22 am Post subject: 59 Ghia. Door window fitment.

HI,
Reaching out here on the forum. Can't get the window properly.
When its parallell to the b-pillar its hitting the A-pillar before it reaches the
top bow.
Also I noticed with the new door seals install it seams you have have to close the doors with the windows down a bit and the role them up under the lip.

Any advice what to do here?

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udo dreisoerner · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:49 am Post subject:

hi suicidesplit.
mhh,very strange.are this widows the original one? and have you this problemat both sides of your lowlight? i think the non pop out window is not in the correctly position at this time. so we need some lowlight owners who measuring his window at b -pillar. i hope to make that this day for you.
regrads from germany, udo
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Suicidesplit51 · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:58 am Post subject:

Hi Udo,

Did you get my mail I sent you some time ago ?

Windows looks original. Same marking on all at least. Q-windows don't seam to be out anytime but I can be wrong. A measure where the b-billar should be along the car could help.

Regards

Jesper

udo dreisoerner · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:13 am Post subject:

hi jesper.i dont receive an emailfrom you. sent you my emaladress via pm.

i hope to get the measure this day...............

regards, udo
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wolfgang klinkert · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:24 am Post subject:

Hello Jesper,

have you already seen this thread Question

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=439152
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Suicidesplit51 · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:55 am Post subject:

Hi,

Yes I read that tread. Tried all adjustments before posting here.

Thanks for the tip.

KG1965 · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:17 pm Post subject:

Hi,

I got some pages of the manual from The Online Karmann Ghia Resources http://www.type-14.com/ which has some guidlines of how to install the window.

Might be of some help, posted the pages in dropbox.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32261564/Window%20Installation.pdf

Did you adjust the hight as stated on page A-63 6 of this manual?
And then correct as described in the section side-adjustment?

Good luck, Gerard
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udo dreisoerner · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:40 am Post subject:

pics

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Suicidesplit51 · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:43 am Post subject:

Thanks ! I will have a look at it.

Suicidesplit51 · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:04 am Post subject:

Checked the measure and its the same as yours Udo.
Same story on both sides. Although worse on drivers side. This is a mystery. Confused

udo dreisoerner · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:59 am Post subject:

courios story...when you re-mounting the b-rubber and chrome part. it is then possible to take the doorglas to roofline?
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boinkffd · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject:

I'm going through the same with my build. Am watching this thread closely.

Suicidesplit51 · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:33 am Post subject:

udo dreisoerner · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:57 am Post subject:

hello jesper.
please, can you tell me: you use ALL original parts and the original door for your restauration? the glas-lifter ( i dont know the english word), the Window for himself ? do you have mounted an rubber between the metal-roof-line and the aluminium-molding for the windowrubber at roofline?

can you sent me an drawing with measures you need? i will look for more measures at my ghia for you.....
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Suicidesplit51 · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:18 am Post subject:

Hello Udo,

As far as I know they are all OG parts. I don't have the history if anyone changed parts on it. But from what I can tell based on trace they are OG.
I did not remove the carrier for the roof seal but there is a thin seal between the carrier and the sheet metal. Maybe you can check the A-pillar angle from door to A-pillar?

Thanks a lot.

//Jesper

udo dreisoerner · Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:59 am Post subject:

hi jesper, today i line / paint the doorwindow contur at my lowlight ghia. please sent me your postadress and i sent you the drwaing / paper.
regards, udo
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Suicidesplit51 · Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:00 am Post subject:

That's great Udo !

PM sent.

udo dreisoerner · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:57 am Post subject:

drawing is on the way to you..... Razz

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Suicidesplit51 · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:01 am Post subject:

Thanks for the drawing Udo. My window and quarter window matches your drawings.... I also checked the B-pillar opening towards the body drawing and the measure was ok. So I still don't know the source to this issue Sad

I did two more rough measures (bad phone pics):

Angle between A-pillar and waist line: approx 51 degrees.

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Height from outer edge of sill plate to roof line in the middle of window roof line is approx 930 mm.

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Altema · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:30 am Post subject:

How is your door gap? Is it even, or is the back gap larger at the bottom than it is at the top? Only asking because some body adjustments can affect the window fitment. On mine, the body rear needs to be shimmed upwards and the window does not seal completely at the top front (opposite of yours). It's minor on mine and you can't see it unless you look hard, but the windows whistle on the freeway.

Paul

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