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L378 Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2004 Posts: 924 Location: MD
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: Hubcap centers 1956 |
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| Schwing comments in his "Herman moves to MD" build thread that according to progressive refinements hubcap centers were all painted black beginning on 9/4/56. PR notes that prior to that date they were painted various colors. I have seen hubcaps on earlier cars painted either the color of the inner rim or body color. I looked through the archives, various web seraches, but found no documentation as to what color the hubcap center should be for a given body color. Just wondering if anybody has any documentation on this. |
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janerick3 Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:58 am Post subject: |
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Garwood lists hubcap center colors in his books (matches body color '54 - April '56). However, given the number of errors in his oval window-era color charts, I wouldn't count on them to be 100 percent accurate.
I do know that Strato Silver cars had hubcaps with Strato Silver centers. I still have 1 (very rusty) of 3 color-matching hubcaps from a Feb '55 L227 ragtop that were taken off the car in 1970. _________________ 11/1954 Type 113 (US market)
01/1955 Type 113 (US market)
1975 "Model 110"
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L378 Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:57 am Post subject: |
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janerick3,
Thanks for responding. I’ve known that ovals originally had painted emblems, with earlier ovals having the emblem (mostly) painted corresponding the body.
From progressive refinements body section page A-51: Sept. 4, 56 ornamental wheel caps bug/transporter Now: VW emblem in black only Before: various colours
AS you note Garwood is incorrect in that he indicates this change in the late 56 MODEL Year rather than the late 56 CALANDER Year which was early 57 production year. My question was with “various”. However, I’ve always been curious because of seeing a few L275 light beige cars with red emblems. According to Garwood (inaccuracies duly noted) it appears that VW painted the inner rim of light colored cars (light beige, parchment white) a darker color and the hubcap VW emblem was painted the inner rim color rather than the body color. It’s just a small little detail, but the hubcap looks rather naked without it. Since I hadn’t popped them on since mounting my summer rims, figured just do it. Done in beige which is what I figured.
Below are some photos of various emblems with the poster ID'd from the gallery
Beige rims(piet&som) I post this as always curious about this rim combo
(barnyardvw)
57 horizon blue (suboval)
Jungle green (welt)
How to (margaritavillian)
I didn't find much luck with the rattle can and wipe method but I did using Elmer's (glue) brand 'Painters' paint pens found at the local craft store. I outlined the emblems in fine point and filled in the middles with a medium point.
Schwing in his thread describes how he did his and I recall discussion on HOW TO in the split window beetle forum. |
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L378 Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Popped on the caps and snapped a few quick pics.
I see I need to go out with the Mr Clean Majic erase and clean the whitewalls. |
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79SuperVert  Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| L378 wrote: | | I see I need to go out with the Mr Clean Majic erase and clean the whitewalls. |
More about this, please? I have a lot of trouble keeping my whitewalls clean and have never heard of this product.
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lzamora Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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SOS pads with the blue soap on then work great also. _________________ 1956 Oval Window Rag
1953 Zwitter Rag |
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L378 Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| 79SuperVert wrote: | | L378 wrote: | | I see I need to go out with the Mr Clean Majic erase and clean the whitewalls. |
More about this, please? I have a lot of trouble keeping my whitewalls clean and have never heard of this product.
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I cannot recall who (or where read) turned me on to them. The problem with whitewall cleaners is that the chemicals contained in them will prematurely degrade your whitewall, either via yellowing, or cracking + you are likely using some type of brush to scrub. No offensive intended to the previous poster but SOS pads will likely put swirl marks prematurely in the whitewall as well. Although she didn't mention it for whitewalls, my wife has used the MR Clean Majic erase for years on her store's floors to clean heel marks-no scratches. Your whitewalls will eventually develop fine cracks IF not kept in climate control, but given the cost of a new set, no need to have them crack/yellow prematurely if you can help it. Thinking about it, I bet the old white drafting eraser would proably wortk as well, but I haven't use one in over 20 years. Just get a Mr Clean and you can clean your whitewalls anytime, without having to wash your car/wet your tires. Go to a show, pull it of your glove box, perfectly clean white walls. |
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79SuperVert  Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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They are supposed to be available at Walgreen's so I'll be checking that out tonight. Thanks. This could be my Beetle - related discovery of the year!  _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| 79SuperVert wrote: | They are supposed to be available at Walgreen's so I'll be checking that out tonight. Thanks. This could be my Beetle - related discovery of the year!  |
Bonus fun fact, everything purchased a Walgreens bypasses the car hobby budget and goes straight to the household budget! |
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caseydenise Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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My free hand is bad, but I don't care much. This was rustolium thinned down a bit. It dried better.
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L378 Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, you've got 20 foot hubcap emblems just like me! Had trouble photographing last night as the lighting was so bad, the flash was washing out the beige. Paint was too thick & dried a bit blotchy, but they look OK on the car. Also you don't need to use much pressure with the Mr Clean unless you have a really troublesome spot.
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caseydenise Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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And my wife didn't believe me that other guys around the country are also painting their hubcaps right now. Jeez
Good work fella's _________________
| EverettB wrote: | | That is badass |
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L378 Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| caseydenise wrote: | And my wife didn't believe me that other guys around the country are also painting their hubcaps right now. Jeez
Good work fella's |
yea, there's that and explaining the run to the Walgreens for a Mr Clean Magic erase. |
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79SuperVert  Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Snort wrote: | | Bonus fun fact, everything purchased a Walgreens bypasses the car hobby budget and goes straight to the household budget! |
My wife isn't going to see these until I try them out first. And if they work well, my wife isn't ever going to see them!  _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
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cavscout Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:41 am Post subject: |
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The magic erasers are great. We use them on our vert top and all the interior. Wife uses them on walls and everywhere. They do work very well. _________________ "Thanks to you I'm much obliged, such a pleasant stay" RP
56 ragtop
79 vert
2010 VW CC Turbo |
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79SuperVert  Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Holy Mackerel! These Magic Erasers are awesome! I used them on my whitewalls and on my mud flaps and the dirt came off like nothing. Much better than the smelly whitewall cleaner that comes with all kinds of warnings about getting it on the paint. Only problem is that after four whitewalls and two mudflaps the eraser started to fall apart. No matter, it still works great. _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
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npbusguy Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a little secret to painting the hubcap logos.
Start with nice clean hubcaps (in this case, 3 NOS ones and one new German made reproduction)
Get a little acteone ready to clean with
Mount a lint free cloth tightly over a sanding block
Spray semi gloss black on hub caps
Moisten the dust free cloth with the acetone and start wiping the overspray off the hubcaps in a linear motion (no circles)
Change the acetone cloth often for best results.
The logo starts to show up nicely.
Complete painted logo hubcap that needs a final polish once the paint is fully cured.
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caseydenise Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Dang, those came out Awesome! Wish I thought of that. _________________
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L378 Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| caseydenise wrote: | | Dang, those came out Awesome! Wish I thought of that. |
read my earlier post with margaritavillian's how to. He couldn't get it right, I tried, I couldn't either (years ago) which is why I finally did it by hand. However, it does look REAL nice when done right. |
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thats how I did mine also, an old ford buddy of mine tought me that trick. Its how he paints up his 30's ford caps. I painted mine over 10 years ago and they are still holding up nicely. _________________ WANTED: Henry Veale Santa Rosa plate frames
and Brittsan Motors Fresno plate frames
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1958 L245 Type 113
1961 L87 Type 117 |
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