How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions

WideFive · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject:

You're good.... I was just saying you may or may not notice a difference by the seat of your pants. Geometry wise the less you lower with the beam the better.

If you're happy with it now, no need to change things.
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starke · Samba Member Joined: December 02, 2007 Posts: 7

hi guys,

I'm in process to lower my 72 brazilian split bus and would like a little help.

Someone here has the measures of this piece ? I want to manufacture a couple.

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Thanks

scottvw · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:05 am Post subject:

Why don't you buy a set from Old Speed. Giving you the measurements is like pirating music.

WideFive · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:11 am Post subject:

Yeah, just do it the old fashioned way... buy them and then copy them. That what people do to my stuff Mad

Those look like vwrepublic.com drop plates. Type I stuff. Not sure of Old Speed sells those?
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ratherb-buggin · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:02 am Post subject:

starke · Samba Member Joined: December 02, 2007 Posts: 7

EverettB · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:58 am Post subject:

mannys66 · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:23 am Post subject:

WideFive · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:08 am Post subject:

Manny, all corresponance must go through my lawer. You should know this by now.
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cage66 · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:59 am Post subject:

Thanks for the measurements Manny.
Laughing

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ratherb-buggin · Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:47 pm Post subject:

Finally finished up my lowering project. Here are some photos from this past weekend. Shout out to themissourikid (Brandon) for helping me get everything put back together in time. Very Happy

32 hours of straight wrenching in one shot.
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ccb_dan · Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:52 am Post subject:

That looks really sharp there buggin.

flemcadiddlehopper · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:50 pm Post subject:

Well I have a couple of questions.

First of all I am building a '67 Bus, I have flipped the spindles (not completed yet) . I had a ball joint front end in my Bus before and I am swapping back to a late Link/king pin front end. The sway bar from the ball joint one is a very close fit. The ends could share the bolt that is the pinch bolt for the link pin and I could use the bushings and clamps from the ball joint front end to mount it to the control arm of the link pin front end.
So, has anyone done this? What have I missed?

Next, I am omitting the RGBs at the rear. I have the long axle long spline axles and tubes but I need a set of adjustable spring plates. i have been looking at the ones from Wagens West. I was wondering if it was at all necessary to have a toe adjustment ability on the rear to compensate for camber? And, does anyone make spring plates with that adjustment available?

Thanks, Gordo.

cdennisg · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject:

I don't have an answer to the sway bar question, but I always thought that the trailing arms on a bay beam were slightly wider than a split, and therefor the sway bar would not work.

You don't NEED adjustable spring plates, but they are nice for fine tuning the ride height and leveling the rear suspension side-to-side. The holes in the rear of the springplate where the axle tube end casting bolts on are elongated, allowing toe-in adjustment. Stock bus springplates do not have this feature. Adjusting the toe-in does not have any affect on camber. However, toe-in changes along with camber as the wheel cycles through it's range of motion.
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flemcadiddlehopper · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:34 pm Post subject:

You're right the sway bar is wider by a couple of inches, but by tucking it in to the pinch bolts it seems to line up OK. I have ordered new sway bar mounting kits and I will try a real fit once they arrive.
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As far as the rear adjustments. I think I mainly want the adjustable spring plates for taking the wheels off with out too much trouble.
I am asking about toe , not because I plan on running massive amounts of negative camber, but more to have the adjustment to minimize tire wear and to ensure straight tracking.

Gordo.

ratherb-buggin · Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:27 am Post subject:

flemcadiddlehopper · Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 6:28 am Post subject:

Another question regarding flipped spindles on my '67 Bus. The seals and seal washers that go against the control arms don't seem to fit now,as well as the caps for the other end pf the link pins.
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What is done to remedy this issue? Is a smaller seal used and the washer trimmed down? Is the cap just shaved down and tacked on?
Thanks for any help, Gordo.

Krustybus · Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 6:37 pm Post subject:

I've always been able to use the lower seal/washer as is. The upper seal will need a slight trim at the top to sit flush. Seal washer shouldn't need anything done to it. The caps will not fit, since the recess for them is now on the arm side of the splindle. Unless you're running through a lot of water or dirt, leaving them off is ok. Just keep everything well greased.
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flemcadiddlehopper · Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:32 pm Post subject:

Cool, Thanks.

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