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hotrodgary
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 Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:55 am Post subject: Steering wheel / column identification help |
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I have acquired a steering wheel and column assembly from a friend who passed away out of his collection. He was known for porsche & vw's, racing etc. So I am not sure if this is even a complete original unit or something he could have pieced together for one of his car years ago?
Anyways, I have searched tons and found very little to help identify what exactly it is? I cannot find many photos showing the parts to nail it down?
I added some pics of it below.
- Mid 50's porsche 356a speedster steering wheel? Its 15.75" or about 40cm in diameter.
- Turn signal assembly looked like it was early porsche from pics of others?
- The column mount / parking brake assembly looked different than the pics of other porsche I have seen?
- The steering shaft has a VW logo with .47.77.9, I google that and found it to possibly be early spit window vw? Did they use these same parts in porsche I assume?
- Also, how do you remove the horn button? push and twist or do you release something thru the holes in the back of the steering wheel? I didnt want to damage it till I asked to make sure before I just pry around haha.
I am not familiar with Porsche stuff, so Any help or info from you guys is greatly appreciated!!!
-Gary
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| That looks exactly like what is in my 55 coupe. To remove the button, there are 2 holes on the back side. You put a punch in those holes and gently start tapping up. May do some damage to the button. |
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mpribanic
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:52 am Post subject: |
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Same wheel as in my 1958 coupe, expect mine has a horn ring. My turn signal switch is different and a whitish color. As far as the rest of the steering column i can't help you. Nice find!
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:15 am Post subject: |
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That's preA stuff. Be careful of the turn signal switch, as the mechanisms are easily broken. In fact, be careful with all of it! Your horn button looks really nice. I wouldn't "tap" on the backside. If it will not come out by just pushing, you may need a special tool to safely remove it. What is your name and where do you live?
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mpribanic
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Jack, if his profile is correct he is in Michigan. I would think this would be pretty desirable to someone who has a preA. What are your plans for it?Hopefully, you can put it in the hands of someone who needs it for their Pre A. I've always wanted to put one of those wheels on one of my buses, but they are not interchangeable without some modification of the steering column.
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hotrodgary
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys!
I have been inquiring all over and general opinion is a pre a 356 speedster.
You dont want to know my original intentions lol... I do love that steering wheel.
I have it listed on ebay actually, so yes my intentions are for someone to get it and use it for what it is made for because of its rarity and history.
-Gary
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| hotrodgary wrote: |
Thanks guys!
I have been inquiring all over and general opinion is a pre a 356 speedster.
You dont want to know my original intentions lol... I do love that steering wheel.
I have it listed on ebay actually, so yes my intentions are for someone to get it and use it for what it is made for because of its rarity and history.
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Good for you on trying to pass it on. Too bad the 356 Registey is closed to members only, I bet someone needs that part & let's hope they are in EBay. Can you post the link? If allowed? Or anything to help find it on eBay?
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hotrodgary
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I dont wanna get in trouble for trying to sell it in this forum or something??
But if you search 356 speedster steering wheel it will come right up! Same name, same pics as I use here.
Thanks,
-Gary
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| Jacks wrote: |
That's preA stuff. Be careful of the turn signal switch, as the mechanisms are easily broken. In fact, be careful with all of it! Your horn button looks really nice. I wouldn't "tap" on the backside. If it will not come out by just pushing, you may need a special tool to safely remove it. What is your name and where do you live?
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You wouldn't happen to have a pic of the special tool, would you? My button has been soaking in PB blaster for too long, like a year, and still wont come out.
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| I just looked at my 55 coupe wheel, and the other poster is correct. It is not the same, as there is no half horn ring with the shoulders on the round cover that the button is in. Maybe Speedsters did not have this ring. |
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Since Speedsters were stripped out cars and the '55 Coupes were mostly Continentals meant for the American market, where a horn ring would be almost essential, it's most likely that the wheel is from a speedster. The ribbed directional housing and red light up SWF bulb on the end of the stalk place it as a Pre-A.
Wonderful find, nice condition, sell it as a complete assembly, don't try taking anything apart. A professional restoration shop or experienced 356 owner/restorer would be better able to break it down and bring it back up again looking as new.
Luck,
TC
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Steering wheel / column identification help |
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| hotrodgary wrote: |
- Also, how do you remove the horn button? push and twist or do you release something thru the holes in the back of the steering wheel? I didnt want to damage it till I asked to make sure before I just pry around
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You were very wise to ask.
The horn button is a simple friction fit in the hub of the steering wheel. The problem is, over many decades, that friction seems to increase.
See the small hole on the backside of the hub? There's another one on the other side. You need to find a suitable punch to push the horn button out with. I recommend you start with hardwood. If that doesn't work, try to find some kind of plastic rod (turn down a chopstick?). If you must graduate to metal, grind the end with a bit of a spherical shape. The hole you're working through is not square to the button's backer, so a square end punch will place a sharp edge on the backer, increasing the odds of destroying it.
You should plan to spend many hours being as gentle as possible to get it out. You have only one chance at it.
Eyeball the button for squareness in the steering wheel's hub. If it's cocked it will be tighter than normal. My recommendation is to try to push it back into the hub to square it up. Then slowly walk it out.
The backer to the button (that you're hitting on) is THIN bake-o-lite, and it will shatter easily. Many have died from this fate.
Or, just leave it be and let the new owner destroy it.
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There are two diameters of steering wheels. The Speedster wheel is 400mm, and the "other" is 425mm. However, I believe you could get the Speedster wheel in non-Speedster cars. Of course, today, the Speedster wheel is the one to have, since at 400mm it's already gigantic!
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