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55veedub
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 Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:20 pm Post subject: Replacing 009 |
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I have a 1600 DP with 34pict3 and 009.
Im not a fan of the 009 and the flat spot.
Would anyone reccoment changing the 009 out with the SVDA?
http://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D043%2D905%2D205
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Opticsguy
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I replaced an 009 (aftermarket) with a pertronix svda that I bought from amazon.com of all places. Once I figured out how to install and adjust it,
it works like a champ. Vertually no flat spot on take
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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x2. i made the mistake of buying the chinese one a few years ago. it's poorly made junk. get the good one from aircooled.net.
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neil68
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: Bosch SVAD distributors |
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You might want to try the VW dealers. I purchased one for a Mk 1 Rabbit and IIRC, it's very similar, and some dealers still have those on their shelves...
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Glenn
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Bosch SVAD distributors |
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| neil68 wrote: | | You might want to try the VW dealers. I purchased one for a Mk 1 Rabbit and IIRC, it's very similar, and some dealers still have those on their shelves... |
That would be a mistake.
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bug-ugly
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Hey, I'm new here.
I recently purchased a '72 standard (my fourth VW but my first in almost ten years). It has a 009 and a German 34 pict 3. I've got it running like a damned top! It MAY be too far advanced, as I don't have a timing light at the moment and static timed it to 7.5. I don't know, yet. I haven't driven it on the highway or very long. I will be getting my timing gun this weekend and IF the hesitation doesn't come up, I will give you specs. AS41 block, completely stock as far as I can tell. Although, it has been rebuilt... NO OIL LEAKS! So, I am not sure on the displacement. It feels very peppy!
Anyhow, I will post some specs. in this thread after I time the full advance and assure the driveability. |
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drew8372
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| I have a 34 pict 3 carb and i added a svda from aircooled.net and a was surprised how well my super ran. she hasn't run this good in ten years. it had more pep and no flat spot. |
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zombiebug
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:20 am Post subject: |
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I had a 009 with a Bocor 34 pic 3. For those who are new thats a copy cat Solex. Anyway The SVDA works incredible. Defiantly worth the money, not just for the no flat spot, but for the increase in fuel economy.
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Greg in GA
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| bug-ugly wrote: | It has a 009 and a German 34 pict 3. I've got it running like a damned top! It MAY be too far advanced, as I don't have a timing light at the moment and static timed it to 7.5. I don't know, yet. I haven't driven it on the highway or very long. I will be getting my timing gun this weekend and IF the hesitation doesn't come up, I will give you specs. AS41 block, completely stock as far as I can tell. Although, it has been rebuilt... NO OIL LEAKS! So, I am not sure on the displacement. It feels very peppy!
Anyhow, I will post some specs. in this thread after I time the full advance and assure the driveability. |
You can't static time a 009, if has to be timed a full advance.
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zombiebug
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| Greg in GA wrote: |
You can't static time a 009, if has to be timed a full advance. |
I though the SVDA was the same way?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:44 am Post subject: |
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My 009 ran well till I added the 34, at which point I finally gave in and got the bosch SVDA. They work well together.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| So if you add the pointless igniting in the 009 it doesn't matter what carb you have on it? |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| mattintheboxx wrote: | | So if you add the pointless igniting in the 009 it doesn't matter what carb you have on it? |
The electronic ignition is just a points replacement. It doesn't change the advance properties of the distributor.
On smaller carbs, the 009 can work well. But if you run the larger 34pict you will be happier with the stock type SVDA.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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I had the 009/34-3 combo, and switch to a SDVA from aircooled. Best thing ever, it was like owning a new bug.
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Dwayne_71SB
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:29 am Post subject: |
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I was using an 009 and Kadrons. Switched to an SVDA from aircooled.net. Made a huge difference in driveability, low-end responsiveness and torque. You can have my SVDA when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.
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bug-ugly
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Greg in GA wrote: |
You can't static time a 009, if has to be timed a full advance. |
Yes, I know. Of course it is the full advance that matters, with the 009. I have done my research...
On the other hand, how would you get your engine running? You have to start with static timing to get it running and then adjust the full advance. Did you read my post? |
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bug-ugly
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| zombiebug wrote: |
I though the SVDA was the same way? |
I believe the SVDA can be statically timed. |
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| bug-ugly wrote: | | zombiebug wrote: |
I though the SVDA was the same way? |
I believe the SVDA can be statically timed. |
You are wrong. |
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bug-ugly
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Randy in Maine wrote: |
You are wrong. |
Rob and Dave's aircooled guide has never steered me wrong.
"The double-vacuum advance distributor must be timed with the engine idling, using a strobe timing light. The 009 and single-vacuum distributors CAN be statically timed at 7.5o BTDC, but timing with a strobe light is recommended."
According to them, you CAN set the SVDA statically. It is not ideal, but it will be close. Obviously, a light is the most accurate way to set the timing.
Anyway, I'm not here to argue. Continue on with whichever method you prefer. |
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