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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:04 am    Post subject: "Neptune"...the 1968 Single Cab Reply with quote

Sometimes you just can't beat the addiction. Despite still being in the middle of the restoration of my 1976 Transporter, I found another Bay that I just couldn't pass up. After selling our Passat Wagon before moving back to Maine from WA this year, we found ourselves in need of a second car again once we settled in here. Last summer I had contacted a fellow here in Maine who had his single cab for sale on the Samba. I tried to work out a deal, but the timing just wasn't right and I went back to WA empty handed. When I saw it pop back up on the classifieds here a few months back, I jumped.

The price was right, the truck has a good recent lineage, and heck...who doesn't want a single cab? Meet "Neptune"...

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Now, the truck was previously owned (prior to the most recent owner) by Charlie Jordan, one of the few ACVW mechanics in Maine that has a good reputation. He rebuilt the engine recently and it runs pretty well. Everything, from the engine, to the body, etc. seems to be stock. There's some pretty minor rust, with the only rot I've found being a small section of the gates (see photo), and the doglegs. Other than that and some normal surface rust, it's in pretty top condition...especially for a truck.

My initial questions and tasks include the following...hopefully ya'll can chime in with some info for me. Thanks:


1) Every once in a while it has trouble firing up, and takes a bit of throttle to get her going. There doesn't seem to be much logic to it though. My only guess so far is that there's a slight crack in the intake tube that goes from carb to air cleaner. Thoughts?

2) There's no radio, just the original block off plate. It seems like maybe there was never a radio because there are also no speakers, and no discernible wiring for audio at all. What's the best way to go about adding a stereo deck and a couple speakers? Are there any good tutorials online for this?
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats! Had I not found my s/c the wife and I were heading to look at that one. Love the neptune blue!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as for the stereo, look into a glove box mounting kit. it will put the radio head unit in the glove box, so you dont have to hack the dash up, and hide it from prying eyes. Wink

as for speakers....bass is omni-directional, so you can mount a sub anywhere (under the seat) and the mids and highs are directional, so mount them so you have them aimed at your face, and you will get better quality sound out of them. also, any enclosure (for the speakers or the sub) will help you get clearer low noise...so even in the door or kick panels or where ever you put the mids, put a box of some sort behind it.


another thought, if you have no radio, you probably dont have an antenna....? i was planing on a short stubby one mounted inside the cab to reduce cutting and to keep the outside looking stock....just an idea i had, havent tested it yet.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OOOhhhhhhh.... that's nice!


The starting could be lots of things, float level, fuel pressure, leaking needle/seat, weak coil or condensor, points, plugs, timing or a vacuum leak, you'll have to eliminate each one till you cure it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this makes me want a truck, single or double cab......hmmmm Cool
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gives me hope of some day finding a decent single cab in New England Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrat's, nice truck.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's badass Shocked isn't the blue interior pretty rare?
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. I am quite happy with the truck and excited to really start putting it to the test. So far, it's hauled a yard of organic compost, but other than that it's just done duty around town here.

@ Stuartzickefoose: I've considered putting the deck in the glove-box...I think that'll all depend on which way I go with putting in gauges (VDO vs. DD...CHT, Oil temp/pressure). I guess the one thing I'm curious about, is adding the wiring for the audio in the first place. As you say, I have no antenna either. I've stuck my head under there and the only thing I can find is something one of the previous owners installed...a cigarette lighter outlet in the block-off plate. Other than that...there's definitely no traces of wiring for any radio. Where do I start with that? Do I just tap into the fuse block?

@ busdaddy: thanks for the list of things to check. I'll get going!

@ secretsubmariner: I'm not sure? Maybe someone more experienced in that regard can chime in. I can say I haven't seen too many with the blue interior on the site here, but I don't know if that's a tell-tale sign that it's "rare"..? Good question. I almost think the interior is OG though...maybe I can post a better photo of the seats and someone can tell me.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drool. Neptune is very talented.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most excellent find, there. And how satisfying to finally have made good on your previous attempt. I'll bet you just go out and sit in it or drive it around for the heck of it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OooOoOOOolalalalala that's nice.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jtauxe wrote:
I'll bet you just go out and sit in it or drive it around for the heck of it.

Don't we all ??
Loving Neptune loving the signs of a life well lived.
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jtauxe wrote:
I'll bet you just go out and sit in it or drive it around for the heck of it.

Don't we all ??
Loving Neptune loving the signs of a life well lived.
Ireland, eh? My Neptune Blue pickup is from Ireland!
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jtauxe wrote:
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I'll bet you just go out and sit in it or drive it around for the heck of it.

Don't we all ??
Loving Neptune loving the signs of a life well lived.
Ireland, eh? My Neptune Blue pickup is from Ireland!


Cool how come? Did i read somewhere once that they stopped making/importing pickups to the states at some point or did I imagine that.
Near where i live there is a late bay single cab parked near the road that has almost made me crash a few time from looking at it. I'm pretty sure its rusty as thou. But if yours came from this part of the world i'm sure you would know all about that.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For being a New England bus that thing looks awesome! Nice score man
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EvilMonkley wrote:
jtauxe wrote:
EvilMonkley wrote:
jtauxe wrote:
I'll bet you just go out and sit in it or drive it around for the heck of it.

Don't we all ??
Loving Neptune loving the signs of a life well lived.
Ireland, eh? My Neptune Blue pickup is from Ireland!


Cool how come? Did i read somewhere once that they stopped making/importing pickups to the states at some point or did I imagine that.
Near where i live there is a late bay single cab parked near the road that has almost made me crash a few time from looking at it. I'm pretty sure its rusty as thou. But if yours came from this part of the world i'm sure you would know all about that.

Well, the importation is an interesting story. If the followers of the thread will indulge this bit of a tangent, here it is...

In 1971, the US imposed a steep tariff on the importation of German trucks, in retaliation for Germany's new tariff on frozen chickens. That is why the truck tariff is called the "Chicken Tax". The import fee is a hefty 25% of the value, and amazingly this is still in effect, over 40 years later.

So, there was not a ban on imports. If you are willing to pay the tariff, you can have a new one in your driveway. But most people were simply not willing to pay it, and so there were very few post-1971 trucks (which includes pickups and panel vans, but not transporters or campers) brought to the US. I'm not sure how this one got here, but I presume someone must have paid the tariff at some point. It's the only RHD double cab I know of in the US.

There are some really nice trucks for sale in the UK. That 25% tariff is hard to swallow, though, out of principle as much as cost.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brotha bran wrote:
Thanks for the replies. I am quite happy with the truck and excited to really start putting it to the test. So far, it's hauled a yard of organic compost, but other than that it's just done duty around town here.

@ Stuartzickefoose: I've considered putting the deck in the glove-box...I think that'll all depend on which way I go with putting in gauges (VDO vs. DD...CHT, Oil temp/pressure). I guess the one thing I'm curious about, is adding the wiring for the audio in the first place. As you say, I have no antenna either. I've stuck my head under there and the only thing I can find is something one of the previous owners installed...a cigarette lighter outlet in the block-off plate. Other than that...there's definitely no traces of wiring for any radio. Where do I start with that? Do I just tap into the fuse block?


your going to start by finding with your volt meter, or test light if your cheap, the fuse which has 12 volts (power) with the key off, then move to a fuse that has power ONLY when the key is on. from there, you find a good ground (back of the metal dash, gauges, or on the body of the bus).

then, there are three main wires on a standard radio: 12 volt wire constant, (memory for presets and clock ect) a 12 volt wire switched, and a ground. the switched is usually the red wire, the ground is black, and constant is usually yellow. from there, there are two wires per speaker, and a amp remote wire and a power antenna wire. (last two usually blue) and a dimmer wire, usually orange.

if you cant figure it out, feel free to PM me any questions, im glad to help.

amps are a separate wiring schematic, but i can help with those too.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen that single cab before! Charlie used to take it to the VW show every year loaded with parts. I spoke with him on the phone about a year ago and he was almost finished a Squareback project.

Charlie was is a super nice fellow, I was referred to him by some members of the Vactionland Volkswagen association. He gave me a lot of advice and pointed me in the right direction for the bus I'm working on now.

I have to say I'm a little jealous that you have that single cab now! Enjoy it, looks like an awesome ride. There are very few in the state.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure I spied that truck in Freeport area last week. Could have been mistaken as I was on 295 and it was just off an over pass.[/b]
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