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thefreed Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: Carpet install on a 67 beetle |
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| I am going to install carpet in my 67 bug this weekend. Any hints on best way to do it, best glue, ect. |
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andk5591  Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 8877 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Just did a 67 a couple weeks ago -
#1 - get a decent kit. TMI or Sewfine. NOT Mid America - Make sure that you know if you are using the footrest or not before you order .
#2 - make sure that you run a few extra wires from the fusebox area to at least under the rear seat. A couple to the engine compartment is a real good idea.
#3 I like 3M Super 77 adhesive, but its not real critical. You don't need to glue it down solid - I do the rockers, the bottom of the kick panels and the flat floor area only.
#4 to pry up the strip along the rockers, I like a plastic putty knife and a wooden paint stick. Rubber hammer to beat it back down when done.
#5 sequence is important - Kicks and rockers, front bulkhead, front floor, rear floor, rear wheel wells and rear back.
#6 does your headliner go under the rear window? If not, you may need to use a little piece to fill it in since the rear carpet doesnt mate up to the window on the TMI kits.
#7 Have some chalk in hand - I use it to mark seat belt holes and when I am test fitting before spraying on the glue so you know where the pieces will go. You dont want to pull it back up after you glue it down.
#8 I make a cardboard template of the E-brake boot to do the cut for it (on the underside of the carpet). Make it your cutout a bit undersized since it opens up a little when you pull the carpet over the tunnel.
#9 get a pack of short shiny twist nails (about 3/4" long) from any hardware store. You use them to nail the kick panel along the top on the A pillar and anywhere else you need a little more holding power - you only need a few of them.
#10 - take your time - its not hard, just tedious - I have done 4 over the last couple years and I have yet to mess one up real bad.
I think thats it. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1776.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard project at wife's request and your gonna die when you see this one. |
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67 Florida Deluxe  Samba Purist

Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 6223 Location: Gainesville and St. Petersburg, Florida
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding the twist nails, the holes will already be in the sheet metal. If you rip out the old carpet, the original nails will likely still be intact, so you can re-use them. Just tap the nails into the holes through the new carpet (after applying adhesive to the carpet, of course). the nails keep the carpet from sagging and the adhesive keeps the carpet secured to the sheet metal.
As stated, pretty simple. _________________ Wanted:
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DHMaher Samba Member

Joined: November 16, 2009 Posts: 704 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'm doing a similar project only the PO went a little crazy with the carpet screws and I'm paranoid about rust (don't ask). What's the best way to fill some of these holes?
Thanks! _________________ Daniel
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DHMaher Samba Member

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Any suggestions on how to fill unnecessary carpet nail holes? _________________ Daniel
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VOLKSWAGNUT  Fastest VW Belt Changer

Joined: October 14, 2007 Posts: 4905 Location: At the wheel in N.C. U.S.A.
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| DHMaher wrote: | | Any suggestions on how to fill unnecessary carpet nail holes? |
Are those holes going to be covered by new carpet? _________________ aka Ken
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Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out.... then let em' rot out.
It's more about the going --- not the showing.
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DHMaher Samba Member

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Yes so they won't be seen. I'm talking about preventing rust in them, especially around the luggage tray area. Already had a load of rust issues back there.
Thanks, _________________ Daniel
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VOLKSWAGNUT  Fastest VW Belt Changer

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Treat any spots and seal them from the elements.
That means clean, prime, paint with rust preventing paint, and then use some seam sealer to fill the voids. You just need to seal them from air, and moisture. Thats all it takes. You could even use some RTV sealer, after treating any issues. _________________ aka Ken
Your car picture into a kustomizable piece of frameable art. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1471653
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch "IT" here.
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out.... then let em' rot out.
It's more about the going --- not the showing.
Rebuilt to drive not decorate. |
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DHMaher Samba Member

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Sounds good. That was the route I was going to go. Would seam sealer after prepping/painting work? I already have some. Sorry for the newbish question. Still learning... _________________ Daniel
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russ c Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| whats the downside of using mid america carpet kit? |
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VOLKSWAGNUT  Fastest VW Belt Changer

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| DHMaher wrote: | | Sounds good. That was the route I was going to go. Would seam sealer after prepping/painting work? I already have some. Sorry for the newbish question. Still learning... |
Urethane Seam sealer can go on before or after paint. Read the label of the sealer you have. RTV can not be painted _________________ aka Ken
Your car picture into a kustomizable piece of frameable art. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1471653
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch "IT" here.
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out.... then let em' rot out.
It's more about the going --- not the showing.
Rebuilt to drive not decorate. |
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andk5591  Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 8877 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| russ c wrote: | | whats the downside of using mid america carpet kit? |
How much time ya got......
Quick and dirty - ordered a carpet kit for a 69 type 1 vert. Was in stock. Received it. Was for a 64 or earlier vert. Sent it back. But now the one I needed was back ordered. Waited 3 weeks. Went to install it. There was a MAJOR triangular gap at the kick panel, rocker joint. Talked to customer service about it - they sais there is nothing wrong with their kit - they sell hundreds, but they still let me send it back. I ordered a TMI and installed it with no problem.
And I have installed 3 or 4 carpet kits previously, so I kind of think I know what I am doing. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1776.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard project at wife's request and your gonna die when you see this one. |
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DHMaher Samba Member

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: | | DHMaher wrote: | | Sounds good. That was the route I was going to go. Would seam sealer after prepping/painting work? I already have some. Sorry for the newbish question. Still learning... |
Urethane Seam sealer can go on before or after paint. Read the label of the sealer you have. RTV can not be painted |
Thanks, you confirmed my thinking! _________________ Daniel
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russ c Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| ok thanks,i was gonna order a kit from mid america now i wont.which vender did you use for your tmi kit thanks! |
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andk5591  Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 8877 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: |
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It depends - most everyone handles TMI - Usually I get from CIP1, but it can vary. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1776.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard project at wife's request and your gonna die when you see this one. |
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cory464 Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2010 Posts: 494 Location: kokomo in
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| russ c wrote: | | whats the downside of using mid america carpet kit? |
i believe the better question is "what is the upside"
anyhting they make looks awful. look at the pictures of slopp fitting seat covers that they put in their own catalog. TMI is a better product, and usually cheaper.
but back on topic. best tip is don't cut anything until you are absolutely certain it is in the right spot. then check it again. |
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andk5591  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Yep - that old carpenters rule. measure once - cut twice....  _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1776.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard project at wife's request and your gonna die when you see this one. |
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russ c Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| ok thanks guys,when you look at their catalogs it seems like good stuff.i guess not |
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andk5591  Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 8877 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed - very nice catalog. And didnt they buy out a VW retailer in Colorado or something (OE Vdubs????) ?
I just dont get a warm fuzzy when I talk to them - Like they arent car people at all, just bodies in a call center. Oh well.......
Sorry - getting off topic. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1776.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard project at wife's request and your gonna die when you see this one. |
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DHMaher Samba Member

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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| andk5591 wrote: | | And didnt they buy out a VW retailer in Colorado or something (OE Vdubs????) ? |
Rocky Mountain Motorworks _________________ Daniel
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