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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: re-thinking one piece windows..... Reply with quote

is it possible to re-install the original windows after they have been modified?

ones piece windows SUCK!. water just pores in when you wash it! the scrapers just end and there is a big gap for everything to just go down the door!

on top of that, im really missing my wing windows.

i was not fully on board with this idea, it was my dads contribution but i agreed. now i'm getting sick of them!

it will be awhile before i can actually do anything about it, got alot on my VW to do list but i think about this every time i drive it.

at least it looks good. really good! but Uggh...


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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 5:48 pm    Post subject: windows Reply with quote

Sorry to hear your problem but, if you have all the old parts
why not put it cack to stock Confused
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you install one peice windows you have to cut out the wing window channel. unless your an awesome welder, the only way I know how to go back to having wing windows is to replace the doors.
Unfortunately just another unreverseable mod that plauged vws in the 80's. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: windows Reply with quote

Stale air, Boy That Sucks. Mad
But, i'm glad you posted this so i can tell my Son not to do it too!
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like ill have to work on the awesome welder thing....
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: windows Reply with quote

old DKP driver wrote:
Stale air, Boy That Sucks. Mad
But, i'm glad you posted this so i can tell my Son not to do it too!


stale air is right! i also have a fiber glass hood that came W/0 the air intake vents. bad idea also. this is something i did not even realize i was doing though. oops...

yes! warn him! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a 73 you can just reinstall the window parts. No welding necessary.
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derek Cobb wrote:
On a 73 you can just reinstall the window parts. No welding necessary.


how do you know i have a 73?

my 73 has the tab you cut out..
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need the tab. It's not essential.

I just read your other post about getting up the hill and rebuilding your motor.

and I'm psychic...
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

o ok haha! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am glad you posted this so those are considering moving to the one peice window may reconsider there choice.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:23 am    Post subject: Re: windows Reply with quote

oda5000 wrote:
old DKP driver wrote:
Stale air, Boy That Sucks. Mad
But, i'm glad you posted this so i can tell my Son not to do it too!


stale air is right! i also have a fiber glass hood that came W/0 the air intake vents. bad idea also. this is something i did not even realize i was doing though. oops...

yes! warn him! Smile


i just realized, "stale air" is someones user name.... i though you were talking about what you get when you don't have proper ventilation... Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When you install one peice windows you have to cut out the wing window channel. unless your an awesome welder, the only way I know how to go back to having wing windows is to replace the doors.
Unfortunately just another unreverseable mod that plauged vws in the 80's. Rolling Eyes


The tab has nothing to do with mounting the quarter windows, its only there to stop the inner and outer door skins flexing.

Myself and hundreds of others have made the swap back, once You refit the old quarter windows you will never even know the tab was cut.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friends don't let friends one piece their windows; and neither should strangers on the internet. Let this be a lesson to everybody. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conclusion: yes! Thanks guys!
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine came with one piece windows...I hate em. I am working out a hopeful trade for some good stock doors with good two piece windows...just need a few seals and paint (along with the rest of my car).
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they're done halfass then, yes they will suck. If they are installed with the correct regulator and if the underside of the front of the scrapers are cut and the scrapers are radiused to match the curve of the door then they work great.

There was a nice article on this on someone's resto site but I can't find it. But the point is they can be done right if they're done right.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think you understand, it just does not work like that. they either suck or suck even more. idk if you have them, but if you do, you obviously got a better company than i did. the seals arent my only concern though.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do understand. It does work like that. I have a set. If they are installed properly, like mine, with the proper parts, then they work fine. If they are not, then they will suck.

I don't know what 'company' made mine. They're just a flat piece of glass.

Also, there are felt channels. My felt channels are getting pretty ratty but I've had the car for over 12 years and they were on it when I got it so that's understandable. New felt channels are available in the aftermarket. The clips that hold them in, too.

My car came with single-point-lift regulators which did suck but I've since replaced them with genuine VW two-point-lift regulators. They are adjusted correctly so the windows roll up and down smoothly and fit the frame when they are rolled up. They are available in the classifieds or at the junkyard.

I also have a set of scrapers, the underside of which have been cut at the front and rear so that they can be bent to match the radius of the window frames. The scrapers, also, can be found in the aftermarket.

That's pretty much it. That's all the kit is. Glass, scrapers, and felt channels. The user supplies the regulators and sashes. What's the problem with yours?
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just be thankful that he didn't take a sawz-all and cut the roof off in the name of "Kool", I've seen a lot of kids do that to the VW's their parents bought for them.
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