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Blauchen L331 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject: Halo in the Windshield Glass....anyone else see this before? |
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My 57 Euro/Export has a very unique colored HALO in the drivers side of the glass in the windshield, has anyone else seen this before in an Oval windshield????
It's a rainbow sort of color, almost looks like a oil slick, with purples, blues, greens etc.
Bradley (from the VW School in Winter Haven) told me that it's occured in a couple of cars, does anyone have an excuse or know a reason, is it a fault in the glass or like rare earth camera lenses that have bubbles in them, is it a sign of top quality glass????
You can only see it when you look into the glass at a certain angles but it's not noticeable when your driving............maybe it's for spotting UFO's????
Tom _________________ OG PAINT L331 1957 TYPE 1 OVAL WINDOW
(US Navy In Germany/ Special Ordered Car from MAHAG Munich)
Delivered with Semaphores - German "Puntchen" Cloth Polkadotted Interior -
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Hefner Samba Member

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Blauchen L331 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Hefner wrote: | Could be a de-lamination of the glass.
Perhaps a bird strike or something similar. |
Hmmmmm, well there isn't any scratch/nick damage in that area, but maybe it's a de-lamination????
Tom _________________ OG PAINT L331 1957 TYPE 1 OVAL WINDOW
(US Navy In Germany/ Special Ordered Car from MAHAG Munich)
Delivered with Semaphores - German "Puntchen" Cloth Polkadotted Interior -
USA RAM Protection/Export Overrider Bumpers - MPH Speedometer -
Sealed Beam Headlights and Bullet Front Turn Signals!
99.8% ORIGINAL PARTS WITH ONLY 28,000 ORIGINAL MILES/ GARAGE FIND/ UNRESTORED CAR |
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my59 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps the halo is the treated glass aging. The windshield is laminated and this area was heat treated?
I read somewhere that one of the safety features of the windshield was that there was a treated area of glass on the drives side that supposedly would not break and stay clear in an accident so the driver could see where he was going afterward. _________________ my59: Well son, my grandfather died before I got to drive it, so does that answer your question?
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sparkleplenty Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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You're going to heaven...Congratulations! _________________ 56' European Oval Ragtop-Stock
56' Karmann Ghia Coupe-Stock
59' Italian Series I Li150 Lambretta-Stock
57' OG Paint Coral Red Oval-Stock
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Blauchen L331 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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@Sparkleplenty ~ Thank You! ~ I feel like Simon Templar now..........
*remember The Saint* ~ Roger Moore played him in that adventure TV show from the early 1960's _________________ OG PAINT L331 1957 TYPE 1 OVAL WINDOW
(US Navy In Germany/ Special Ordered Car from MAHAG Munich)
Delivered with Semaphores - German "Puntchen" Cloth Polkadotted Interior -
USA RAM Protection/Export Overrider Bumpers - MPH Speedometer -
Sealed Beam Headlights and Bullet Front Turn Signals!
99.8% ORIGINAL PARTS WITH ONLY 28,000 ORIGINAL MILES/ GARAGE FIND/ UNRESTORED CAR |
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Bruce Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| my59 wrote: | Perhaps the halo is the treated glass aging. The windshield is laminated and this area was heat treated?
I read somewhere that one of the safety features of the windshield was that there was a treated area of glass on the drives side that supposedly would not break and stay clear in an accident so the driver could see where he was going afterward. |
I've heard that too, but I don't believe it until I see proof.
Tom, is this the car's original front window?
Here's a test. Find some polarized sunglasses and look at it. Then describe what you see. Compare to the side windows, and those of other cars. _________________
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Blauchen L331 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Bruce wrote: | | my59 wrote: | Perhaps the halo is the treated glass aging. The windshield is laminated and this area was heat treated?
I read somewhere that one of the safety features of the windshield was that there was a treated area of glass on the drives side that supposedly would not break and stay clear in an accident so the driver could see where he was going afterward. |
I've heard that too, but I don't believe it until I see proof.
Tom, is this the car's original front window?
Here's a test. Find some polarized sunglasses and look at it. Then describe what you see. Compare to the side windows, and those of other cars. |
Hello Bruce, yes the windshield is the factory original ~ I'll try to try looking at it with the polarized sunglasses sometime at a meet to compare to other cars...... _________________ OG PAINT L331 1957 TYPE 1 OVAL WINDOW
(US Navy In Germany/ Special Ordered Car from MAHAG Munich)
Delivered with Semaphores - German "Puntchen" Cloth Polkadotted Interior -
USA RAM Protection/Export Overrider Bumpers - MPH Speedometer -
Sealed Beam Headlights and Bullet Front Turn Signals!
99.8% ORIGINAL PARTS WITH ONLY 28,000 ORIGINAL MILES/ GARAGE FIND/ UNRESTORED CAR |
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Hefner Samba Member

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| my59 wrote: | Perhaps the halo is the treated glass aging. The windshield is laminated and this area was heat treated?
I read somewhere that one of the safety features of the windshield was that there was a treated area of glass on the drives side that supposedly would not break and stay clear in an accident so the driver could see where he was going afterward. |
That would be an interesting feature but why wouldn't they make it bigger or do they whole screen?!
I've got original screen in mine. I'll try and get some lighting in my shed to see if it is similar! _________________ 1956 RHD Oval.
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Blauchen L331 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| Kjell Roar wrote: | my59 have the right answer.
This has been covered in a thread a couple of years ago. I have the same glas in my oval, and its OG. If you dont have it, its not OG...
Link:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=342785&highlight=windshield
The glas is heat treated so you have a clear view in front of you, if the glas break in small pieces. Often the window becomes white, and you cant see through. |
Way kool Kjell, thanks so much for stopping by and adding that older thread link. ~ now I can tell Bradley I found out why that's there.
It's a kool way to check out if your glass forward is OG! ~ It is really nice how FAST you can learn stuff here at the Samba, thanks to everyone who chimed in.
Enjoy!
Tom _________________ OG PAINT L331 1957 TYPE 1 OVAL WINDOW
(US Navy In Germany/ Special Ordered Car from MAHAG Munich)
Delivered with Semaphores - German "Puntchen" Cloth Polkadotted Interior -
USA RAM Protection/Export Overrider Bumpers - MPH Speedometer -
Sealed Beam Headlights and Bullet Front Turn Signals!
99.8% ORIGINAL PARTS WITH ONLY 28,000 ORIGINAL MILES/ GARAGE FIND/ UNRESTORED CAR
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janerick3 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:49 am Post subject: |
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As stated in the linked thread and in Progressive Refinements, "Visurit" windshields were standard equipment on Type 1 VWs not having the AS-1 laminated windshield option from 13 Oct 1954 until 13 Jan 1958 (18 Feb for Karmann), when the AS-1 became standard equipment.
Some U.S.-market VWs were shipped over with Visurit windshields in early 1955, instead of the AS-1 laminated screens. _________________ 11/1954 Type 113 (US market)
01/1955 Type 113 (US market)
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sparkleplenty Samba Member

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| Blauchen L331 wrote: | @Sparkleplenty ~ Thank You! ~ I feel like Simon Templar now..........
*remember The Saint* ~ Roger Moore played him in that adventure TV show from the early 1960's |
Oh, of course...Great show. _________________ 56' European Oval Ragtop-Stock
56' Karmann Ghia Coupe-Stock
59' Italian Series I Li150 Lambretta-Stock
57' OG Paint Coral Red Oval-Stock
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xeno  Samba Member

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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The first poster had the answer. It could have been an impact area (hence why it is round) that did no damage, but now the de-lamination process started there! _________________ 1952 Crotch Cooler Deluxe (US specs delivered to Stuttgart, Germany GI.)
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1974 Thing (US specs - Mexicanos)
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David Samba Member

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| xeno wrote: | | The first poster had the answer. It could have been an impact area (hence why it is round) that did no damage, but now the de-lamination process started there! |
uhhhh no. _________________ Cheers,
Dave
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Blauchen L331 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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I think we have the correct answer already posted here thanks so much!
Tom _________________ OG PAINT L331 1957 TYPE 1 OVAL WINDOW
(US Navy In Germany/ Special Ordered Car from MAHAG Munich)
Delivered with Semaphores - German "Puntchen" Cloth Polkadotted Interior -
USA RAM Protection/Export Overrider Bumpers - MPH Speedometer -
Sealed Beam Headlights and Bullet Front Turn Signals!
99.8% ORIGINAL PARTS WITH ONLY 28,000 ORIGINAL MILES/ GARAGE FIND/ UNRESTORED CAR |
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