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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:08 pm    Post subject: Gen/battery question Reply with quote

My gen light came on today while driving around, luckily I was near a Sears and so I purchased a mult meter to test some things out! My battery has 12.44 volts with car off, and when car is on it puts out 12.16. In Addition I checked all the wires running from the gen to the voltage regulator as well as to the light in the dash and everything checks out okay. What other test should I preform to diagnose the problem? Or is it safe to say its just time for a new battery or gen?
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

take a flash light and look at the generator wires inside the winding area.

I had one break off the stud which caused my generator to quit charging. A little work, some solder, and I have my generator back on the road.... that was a year ago and it still is great.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the starter spins your engine, it's OK. You need to isolate whether the generator or the regulator is the issue.

You basically disconnect the generator wires and test the generator separately. Search for Speedy Jim's instructions posted here. If the generator tests out OK, then generator is bad.

With engine running like 2000 rpm, should read voltage across battery of 13.5 - 14.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Gen/battery question Reply with quote

VegasMike wrote:
My battery has 12.44 volts with car off, and when car is on it puts out 12.16.


This is an indication that there is no output from the GEN, and you are only running off battery power.

A common failure is for the brushes to simply wear down and loose contact.

Look inside the opening in the GEN and compare them to RafCarre12's new ones from his photo found in the Gallery...
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Old and new to show how they wear...
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brushes are new as of oct 2011 and I haven't done much driving since I put them in.

Mtdorajohn: wires appear to be intact and connected.

Cusser: engine starts fine as if there are no issues with anything electrical.

I will use speedy Jim's test after dinner!
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found the problem the DF terminal was loose, so Took the wire coming out of it off and tightened the terminal down and put it all back together and things work as they should! Thank you everyone for your assistance!
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and when car is on it puts out 12.16.

Like Cusser Master said
you need 13.5 min

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