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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey sixvolt if you cant find a split case tranny Ive got a couple along with 2 36hp motors I'm in cincy OH shoot me a pm if your interested
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks. The one I was going for up here fell through. For now, I decided to follow the advice of the seasoned veterans on here and install the '61 tranny back with the right nosecone for the job.

Got the old nosecone off.
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Had a knowledgeable buddy check those bearings and the forks.
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In case anyone is looking for a picture of what I call forks.
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Got the later bus nosecone on with the WW hockey stick & WW front bus mount.
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Figured I'd do the boots.
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I think I goofed on the boots. Shouldn't they be at 10:00? I put them straight up.
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Got it all cleaned up.
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WIth my son's help we got it up on the forks and ready to get bolted back in.
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I'll have a ton more questions on this bug, but appreciate ll the advice on this part of it. Just thought I'd throw up pictures to help other novice mechanics like me to understand and to allow veterans to critique what's done right and what's done wrong. Criticism is welcome.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turn those axel boots so the screws are at a "9 o'clock" position....They will not leak at this position and they will last much longer. Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sparkleplenty wrote:
Turn those axel boots so the screws are at a "9 o'clock" position....They will not leak at this position and they will last much longer. Cool


I had a hunch I got that part wrong. Thanks for the input. I appreciate the help.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gotten some more things done on this oval that I haven't posted here, but now I'm entering uncharted territory. This doesn't look like it's for the faint of heart. What am I talking about? Vent wing window rubber installation. The threads on this topic are devoid of pictures. So here's what I'm looking at and it seems intimidating. Anybody got any secrets they can share?

I'm at a point where it's time to tackle the front glass and the door glass. I ordered the full rubber kit from WCM. (I normally deal with WW, but I thought I'd give this a chance because they sell the kit). The bug is ready. The question is am I?
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These channels seem VERY small.
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And the rubber that goes in the grooves seems REALLY large.
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Plus with these screws I'm not certain about what goes where??
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I know the swing post has to go through the rubber. I'm assuming at this hole.
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I'm thinking I leave the rubber out in the sun for an hour or so? and get out the dish soap?
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I did get the "W" decklid on with the "Pope's Nose" but I've got to get the spring on the lower (or inner) two holes for full "springiness". Do you have to be a Soviet weightlifter to accomplish that?
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The color is growing on me, although I wish the PO returned it to the original coral red. Can you see the evidence?
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just finished my drivers door, and in the process of finishing up the right side, as I type. I have also done this job a couple of times before, so I may be able to help.
First off, the rubber might look big, but it will fit. Just an fyi, DONT use dish soap. It has detergent in it, that in my opinion is not the best for fresh paint. I use a product like this

http://www.meguiars.com/en/automotive/products/a3332-quik-detailerreg-32oz/

its got plenty of lube, and works great. Also, get a glass stick. It will help to slide the rubber into the slot, and you dont risk F-ing it up with a screwdriver.

http://www.allglassparts.com/thumbnail/product/305078/640/480

One other thing to take note of is that the new rubber will not have a slit in it for the chrome latch keeper mounted on the door. You will have to use a razor blade and cut a slit yourself. Also, you will have to notch out the lower portion of the rubber where it sits on top of the latch keeper, or it will not sit flush into the channel.
I know this all sounds confusing, but its not that hard of a job, just take your time. I will try and snap some pics tonight if you like, like I said I am in the process of doing my right door.

Those screws are to mount the glass division bar.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to fit the decklid spring shut the lid and crawl under the car into the engine bay and fit the spring in place, much easier than juggling the lid and spring around.
of course this only works with an empty engine bay which i assume you have from the pics above of the gearbox installed
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

your car is looking awesome!

Here are some video links that should help you install the seals in your doors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy8xbLlk5dc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfLqfMJu-70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82BL3kGrqbY

good luck... Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks for the suggestions thus far. I really appreciate that "glass stick" image. I really didn't understand what that was when reading other threads on this subject. That "Quick Detailer" is nice stuff. I have some of it in the garage.

That engine lid spring is something else. The engine is out so I do have full access, but I may have to go to the weight room to be sure I can compress that bad boy enough to get it into those two inner slots! I'll go for it and do appreciate that advice!

Lastly, those videos on the vent wing & window installs are awesome! I've seen some of their other stuff, but these are really pretty detailed and helpful. It always helps to visualize.

Greatly appreciate the advice. I'll keep asking questions and taking pictures as I move along.
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the spring: you need a friend to hold the lid.
Put one screw on one side, put the spring on ( while your friend hold the lid) and then put in the other 3 screws.
It was so easy, I gave up tryin to do it on my own.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kjell Roar wrote:
For the spring: you need a friend to hold the lid.
Put one screw on one side, put the spring on ( while your friend hold the lid) and then put in the other 3 screws.
It was so easy, I gave up tryin to do it on my own.

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Thanks for that tip on the spring.

I'm waiting for the WW replacement vent wing windows and division bars to show then I can jump on that part of the project. In the meantime, I tried to put in the Saphire I radio. I thought all Saphire I's were created equal. It seems this doesn't fit flush. I may need to post better pics but what do you guys think?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you need the vertical push button sapphire I, not the sapphire I you have pictured to fit the hold correctly.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

volksheime wrote:
you need the vertical push button sapphire I, not the sapphire I you have pictured to fit the hold correctly.

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Greatly appreciate that information. I was unaware of the distinction in Sapphire I radio's. Shows you learn something new everyday. I'm glad I asked and didn't "hack" fit it. I'll put a vertical one on my wishlist and get this one to someone who can use it. Oval window folks are great with sharing the info! Many thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started working on those vent wing windows. Those video threads posted earlier were a huge help. It's slow going and I only got one side done, but I think even I can handle it. This is WCM rubber with WW vent wing replacement windows.

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So while I've been messing around with window install, I've been thinking about the fuel tank. Every VW I've owned seemed to have fuel tank "issues", so long ago I decided I'd have any tank I'm running dealt with professionally.

Even in Cleveland, where "industry" is still a way of life, radiator shops are dropping like flies. I decided to go down to Klein's, which is in what some would call a "rougher" part of town, but truthfully it's just old. Klein's has been around since the 1910's. It's old school.

Klein's is at West 50th and Lorain Avenue in Cleveland.
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This radiator tank has been here forever.
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He was working on some old car radiators when I came in.
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The place is totally old school. It hasn't hanged much over the last century.
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The inside of my tank was steamed, cleaned and coated.
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I've got to figure out what the correct color is for a stock '57 tank? Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6V

Long discussion on this way back

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9...lor+colour
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L378 wrote:
6V

Long discussion on this way back

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9...lor+colour


Awesome! It will be good reading material. Appreciate the link! Very Happy
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