Bay window Double Cab body repair panels

tofftons · Samba Member Joined: July 21, 2008 Posts: 61 Location: NC

panels repair ?? bay 68 DC ??? help ?? i know of KF (green panels) and others but none offer anything more than seals and 3 door rockers..KF website shows nothing

jtauxe · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:58 am Post subject:

I am anticipating some fine carne adovada from Chili Works for lunch... but I digress...

Back on topic:

I am in the same situation with my 1978 DC, with the added complexity of right hand drive. The bus is currently under the knife (or torch, as it were) in Colorado, getting metal sections replaced. My metal guy knows a lot about double cabs (he owns one) and metal work (he's worked on double cabs and other bay windows buses a good bit), and knows where to find metal.

One source we used was a complete 1977 transporter that donated a nose, a rear skirt (valence, or whatever -- basically the whole rear lower part), and the entire rear wheel wells. Some of these parts, like the complete wheel wells, are simply not available except off an existing bus. Don't worry, everyone - this donor was not a bus that would ever be a candidate for restoration (sadly, but also happily).

Other parts he will have to source from places like KlassicFab or Schofield. These will be rocker panels, mostly. I am counting on his knowing what fits best where, based on his previous experience. He also knows what split bus parts will work.

In some cases, like the sill for the crew cab door, he will probably have to fab up something.

I do not think that a One Stop Shop for all this exists. Unless you take it to someone like this who knows what he is doing.

You might also try Bustoration and see what they have to say.

Now, back to lunch... mmm, those tender chunks of pork simmered all day in that hot red chile...
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white74westy · Samba Member Joined: May 02, 2011 Posts: 58

well....

this is certainly an interesting approach at attempting to get help from people on this forum. Shocked

you might try to get in touch directly with Gerson. Thats the guy that makes all those "funky green panels". Best way to do that is to email him

try: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?username=Gerson

maybe you could click on any one of his ads and send him an email.

best of luck...let us know how things work out for you. Wink

tofftons · Samba Member Joined: July 21, 2008 Posts: 61 Location: NC

due to people like the second post is the reason i should have not even posted this...a lot of us do our own work and dont have the funds to ship out for others to do it for us .. i am just looking help on panel location ..thanks to those who help.. and thanks 74westy ..i have checked and sent email just have not got return email yet ..
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jtauxe · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:35 am Post subject:

Well, I certainly did not intend to put you off. I intended to be helpful. It does not matter that I am not doing my own welding (lacking skills and equipment), the answer is the same. I'm not sure what you expected.

To answer your question more directly, there is no one stop shop, and likely sources for panels would be KlassicFab (e.g. through Bustoration), Schofield (e.g., through VW Heritage or Just Kampers), or metal from a donor bus.

And the whole lunch thing was for a laugh. Wink

Ease up.
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"The bus came by and I got on. That's when it all began..." - Garcia/Weir/Kreutzman
Long gone: 1969 and '78 CE Transporters, Westies: 71, 76, 77, 76, 77, 71, 73, 77, 74
Current projects: 1975 ME Single Cab, 1978 RHD Double Cab 2.0-L FI
http://vw.tauxe.net

skills@eurocarsplus · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:57 am Post subject:

bay window single and double cab's share alot of the same metal as the split windows. btdt
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westcoastmarek · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:32 pm Post subject:

pm sent...
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Manfreds78bay · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:33 pm Post subject:

jtauxe · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:51 pm Post subject:

I still do not understand what ticked him off. Ah, well...
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Long gone: 1969 and '78 CE Transporters, Westies: 71, 76, 77, 76, 77, 71, 73, 77, 74
Current projects: 1975 ME Single Cab, 1978 RHD Double Cab 2.0-L FI
http://vw.tauxe.net

babysnakes · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject:

tofftons · Samba Member Joined: July 21, 2008 Posts: 61 Location: NC

not at all was i ticked off an any way ... i have been looking when i can for parts and was hoping someone could give me answers on the metal parts ..like"hey there is this shop who has " ... or "hey i got some stuff" did not mean to upset anyone...when you read on the forums people go on about stuff that has no answers to any one questions..yes i have contacted all the normal bus parts house.. but if you check the add nothing is in stock ...Monkey Nut is the only one i found that has stuff in stock ready to ship.for the bay DC...and thanks for the info that split stuff does fit ..i have alot of left overs from previous split bus builds but didnt want to waste them on something that would not work out in the end....now that i know the split DC stuff will work i can go from there.. there is alot of that stuff out there...thanks again...
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busdaddy · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject:

Most split stuff sort of fits, it still requires the reshapng of a seam here or a lip there, don't expect it to fit first try.
Like all those seams on the LH rocker for example, splits lack those.

There is no one stop shop for what you need, Gerson is the place to start but do expect to have to modify a few splitty parts.
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tofftons · Samba Member Joined: July 21, 2008 Posts: 61 Location: NC

thanks busdaddy ...iam ok with the reshaping ..and welding ..just didn not want to order a bunch of parts that dont fit...i will check the split truck stuff at klassic fab site
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VWsArent4Hippies · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:58 pm Post subject:

Like busdaddy was saying, you can do pretty much all of the rockers on a bay D/C with Split metal. Some of it will need slight modifications but nothing you shouldn't be able to handle if you're already replacing body panels. Here's a truck I did and used all Gerson split bus stuff to do the rockers

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Loading rocker is the same as split bus. For the cargo floor I used a donor piece out of a bus for part of it and made the outer, truck specific part.

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http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b241/TripOnAStik/MonkeyNut/?action=view&current=DC14.jpg

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Hope this helps

busdaddy · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:09 pm Post subject:

Nice work!, that outer cargo floor is the #1 PITA for me when fixing rust on bays it's usually crispy on one side or the other, that slider track profile and the corresponding raised area on the rockers underneath just can't be duplicated with off the shelf splitty parts properly and look 100% right.

I hope Gerson is listening..... outer floor patch panels...outer floor patch panels...outer floor patch panels Wink

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tofftons · Samba Member Joined: July 21, 2008 Posts: 61 Location: NC

thanks man thats the kind of info needed ..and the pics are a great help..so ordering all split stuff will work ...thanks ..one more questions as far as the pillars go they are the same also ?? some are so far gone hard to tell on my DC,....thanks again
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babysnakes · Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:14 am Post subject:

The lower B pillars on my '69 SC are shot. We compared them with my freinds '65 SC and they appear and measure the same. I'll be getting a pair of them from Gerson.
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tofftons · Samba Member Joined: July 21, 2008 Posts: 61 Location: NC

thanks to all ..Just spoke with Jake at Monkey Nut and they are willing to help ..with what they have ..thanks to everyone.. if any of you have ay extras or left over parts from your resto .. drop me an email with price and what you have ..i buy stuff even if i dont need it sometimes.. check my adds and maybe we trade? thanks again to all
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tofftons · Samba Member Joined: July 21, 2008 Posts: 61 Location: NC

just to all those that may be in the same spot iam in .. there is a 1 stop shop...Auto craft in the UK ..has nearly all the metal needed ..lhd and rhd models.. and thanks to those that answer questions with out there personal feelings.. the purist on the samba are really killing this site...if your looking parts the classifieds are great .. if your looking help ..dont ask without getting into a shoving match on what one thinks is dumb... was just reading a forum about a guy wanting to put a swing axle trans in his early bay ..and for 3 pages all they did was down the idea ..then you go over to early bay web site or kcw ..and they have done it ......thanks to all who have really helped ... Laughing

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