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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: What do i have? Reply with quote

I dont know what kind of frame or body this is. I know it has a 1600cc motor and a king pin front end.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like a Funco Bandido with a the rear part of roll caged modified.
Or it a Hi-Jumper Ascot with modified rear part of roll cage.
Front axle beam mounting clamps look like the ones Funco use, The ones that Hi-jumper used have Hi-Jumper casted into them.
Funco and Hi-Jumper both made frames close to what you have in late 1960's to the 1970's.

It a good looking buggy, have fun with it.

This is my Hi-Jumper Ascot I built in 1973.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang man, that thing looks sweet! You should definitely start a thread and give us a tour of your buggy. I would love to see more!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, by the way, welcome to TheSamba!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh i will when the sun comes back up and it has been fun. i have rebuilt the motor, front king pin/ spindles and all the wheel bearings. now its just time for fiberglass work.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep me posted. I am looking forward to it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!

Didn't I respond to your nearly identical question on another forum lately? I don't see such a post from me in here. I remember some photos of the interior.

My response was very nearly the same as jsturtlebuggy's on here. I also said it was almost certainly a Funco Bandido or possibly a HiJumper Ascot. The back is different from either of those. And I posted a pic of my Hi Jumper Ascot.
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Look close at the cast pieces that clamp the front beam to the frame. If it's a Hi Jumper or a Hobrecht Panzer, it will have one of those names cast into those pieces. Most of Funco's clamps did NOT say Funco. Right under the front lights in this pic:
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In my other response, I also noted the business card set in the fiberglass inside the left side panel visible in one of the photos. It might indicate the brand of the fiberglass.

Your car looks like someone has cut the side rails at the back of the cockpit and jacked them out and welded in pieces to make the cockpit wider. My HiJumper has bent top rails to achieve this. But it was the 1st production frame to get that feature. By that time, Funco wasn't making Bandidos anymore and Hobrecht wasn't building frames anymore, so they didn't get that feature.

Here's a pic of my Hi Jumper:
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like a buggy to me! i think thats whatcha got im pretty sure...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baja kid wrote:
looks like a buggy to me! i think thats whatcha got im pretty sure...


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dustymojave wrote:

Most of Funco's clamps did NOT say Funco. Right under the front lights in this pic:
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In my other response, I also noted the business card set in the fiberglass inside the left side panel visible in one of the photos. It might indicate the brand of the fiberglass.


the clamps just have 3 ridges running vertical on them and the business card thing is what is left from what i think is a vin California put on it. If i remember right all i can make out is a VIN, 1972, and labels the manufacture as VW
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are some nice shots of what I think is a Funco Bandido in a Bionic Woman episode.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks similar to a Funco SS but the rear is different. I think I can see a FUNCO clamp. Anyone know if it was a production kit or is it a one off?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That a Newman Drager (sic) off road car. It a copy of a Funco SSI made in the San Jose area.
Paul Newman and Doug Drager (my spelling of names may off) made many different chassis's for racing off road, sprint buggies, and hill climbing (Pikes Peak).
Last I heard Paul was in Paso Robles area.
On the car in pictures side pod bumps help with front tires from throwing up stuff at driver.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Joe
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: What do i have? Reply with quote

I am in the process of restoring a Panzer that was raced in southern ca in the 70s, and one again in northern ca in 1979. It is 100 percent complete rolling and will be running soon. I am trying to learn as much about the car as possible. I will post pictures of how it was stored in a barn for 40 years.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: What do i have? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: What do i have? Reply with quote

Very cool. Essentially a Hi Jumper frame and fiberglass. But built by Hobrecht. Also in the San Fernando Valley. I have a Hobrecht Baja Bug front bumper for a Sandwinder style kit out in the parts pile. Just looked at it today when I was out with the dogs. It's obvious that car was raced in the 1970s. Window nets, fuel cell, etc. Good chance that I Tech Inspected it at least once since I did Tech for ALL of the organizations in California, Nevada, Arizona and Baja back then.

It would be way cool to put it back on desert trails. And even MORE cool if you could get the road registration going again! The original plan for my Hi Jumper was to register it for the street and use it dual purpose. My buddies talked me into racing it, so we did that. Then it got crashed and parked for quite a few years as I thought the frame twist was terminal. Then by the time I tried and found the twist went away with use, it was then extremely difficult to register such a car for the street. Even harder now here in Commiefornia. Hell, the damned politicians are trying to ban petroleum fuels entirely now.

Note: This car is the same Hobrecht Panzer chassis as the red with black and yellow one from Bionic Woman TV show up above.

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