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l2jarvis
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:42 am    Post subject: Throwout bearing retainer clips Reply with quote

I've got to install a new clutch in my Beetle today.

I remember the last time that I installed a clutch in a pre-70 Beetle, installing the new style throwout bearing retaining clips was a bifurcated, four-door, deluxe, brass-plated pain in the *&$@! After a loooong session of cussing, knuckle busting and retrieving the clips from wherever they flew off to, I gave up and used the original style clips.

Is there a secret to installing those damnable things? A special tool? What? Or should I just use the old style clips and be done with it?

Lee in Lakeland, FL
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vise-grip pliers
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One side is easy. The other side....like cusser says, use vice grips or large needle-nose. Grab the spring by the 'loop'. Insert the straight end into the hole on the bearing with the curved end down. Rotate the spring by turning the 'loop' with the pliers so the curved end goes over the end of the fork, continue until the curved end of the spring 'clicks' into the notch on the fork. (Plier handle pointing up to start, rotate the handle down till it goes into the notch)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You say, "Rotate the spring by turning the 'loop' with the pliers so the curved end goes over the end of the fork, continue until the curved end of the spring 'clicks' into the notch on the fork."

But I don't have a notch in the fork, I have a hole drilled through the fork, and I'm trying to get the straight end of the spring into the "ear" of the t/o bearing and work the other (hooked) end of the spring into the the hole on the fork.

If that's not clear, I can post a photo later.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:36 am    Post subject: throw out clip install Reply with quote

I have exactly the same issue. I have the same type of arm on a 66 bus.
The shop that installed the t/o bearing evidently gave up also ! They had one side correct and simply pried the clip up over the hole and left it.
I am open to the possibility of opening up the holes and making a notch at least on one side, but I still would like to know how the clips were ever originally installed
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's no "original" way to install it...you're dealing with an aftermarket clip and an aftermarket cross shaft....you may have to file the hole larger(towards the front of the car)to cram the curved end of the clip thru....or just get a good stock shaft...as long as you're not using a ridiculous pressure plate you'll be fine
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! I knew it was a rebuilt tranny, but I still don't understand the intent of the aftermarket holes. It seems they would be hard to use even with the stock type clips.
In any event, thank you!
Larry
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you see you have to make a "heavy duty" aftermarket shaft really thick to make up for the inferior strength steel
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