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Dr OnHolliday Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2012 Posts: 1215 Location: was Escondido now San Berdoo
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:58 pm Post subject: saburu transaxle into aircooled type 1? |
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Ok, I havent thought this thru at all, but can a 5-spd suburu transaxle be adapted into a type 1 and hooked up to an aircooled vw?
Pros and cons? Worth the costs? _________________ 1965 Type 1 sunroof Baja / about 70k miles on self-rebuilt '74 1600 and counting / SP heads and aftermarket valve keepers / non-doghouse shroud with external cooler and filter / 1.5 qt extended sump / Weber 32/36 DFAV progressive carb / 009 dist with Pertronix / 1.25 ratio rockers and ball adjusters / 1.5" stainless steel J-pipes and carbon steel baja exhaust |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20377 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Transaxle is behind engine, and its forward mounted (engine) ... Yes there is a gear set (ring and pinion) available from gentlemen in Australia that converts front drive Subie 5 speed to rear engine setup....
And yes its longer than a VW transaxle and will probably interfere with standard torsion bar housing of Type 1...
This is transaxle you would be dealing with....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=582986
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
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jsturtlebuggy Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 4496 Location: Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it can be done. And no it will not interfere with torsion housing.
Todd of www.subarugears.com website shows the different Subaru transaxle to use.
Todd has a ad on the Samba of what trans and parts he is sells.
He is working on a adapter plate to use a VW engine with the Subaru trans.
I was involved with the building of a Meyers Manx Kick Out SS dune buggy for the Manx Club raffle this July.
We installed one of Todd's Subaru transaxles with his reversed ring & pinion with a 2.5 liter Subaru engine.
I can tell you the trans worked well when I drove it. It was great having the 5speed to use to match the engine torque curve.
The drive flanges he sell for the Subaru conversion uses 100mm CV (type II, IV, Porsche 924).
It does require the use of 15 5/8 CV axles which are a little shorter that stock Bug ones. _________________ Joseph
Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
Elrod Motorsports
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gprudenciop Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 606 Location: portland or
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Problem with the subaru trans is it will slow the revs down to much and probably fry the motor in 5th!(useing aircooled) _________________ Never look down at anybody unless you are helping them up..
Loaning someone your strength instead of reminding them of their weakness = kindness.. |
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jsturtlebuggy Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 4496 Location: Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Subaru Gears has 3 different ring & pinion ratios available,
3.90, 4.10, and 4.86
Plus there are different gear sets available for 1st through 5th.
More than enough combinations to come up with something that will work for you.
Plus the rear tire diameter also will determine what RPMs you will be turning at cruising speeds. _________________ Joseph
Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
Elrod Motorsports
Motion Tire Motorsports
Having fun with Dune Buggies since 1970
Into Volkswagens since 1960 |
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Bones 53 Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2005 Posts: 661 Location: Reno NV
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75smith Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2011 Posts: 2275 Location: NH
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:14 am Post subject: |
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bolt in almost, he hasn't made the adapter for ACVW yet, so your stuck with a subie engine..... _________________ My 1975 Beetle Build Updated 8-21-12
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:19 am Post subject: |
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gprudenciop wrote: |
Problem with the subaru trans is it will slow the revs down to much and probably fry the motor in 5th!(useing aircooled) |
so just ideling with my motor will fry it? or driving around town slowely with vw trans will fry it? lower rpm/less power/less fuell=less heat, but your cooling system needs to be up to the task of cooling the motor nomatter what rpm your running....and the motor also needs to be up to the task asked of it. |
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