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Steve Heinrichs Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2012 Posts: 407 Location: Califonia
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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I see no motors identified as 502 including 30064. Does not mean that they were not.
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M. Notary Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 7:45 pm Post subject: Vins and years versus Stoddard |
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Title has 65 for vin 131602. From Stoddard, it says late 64.
How accurate is the Stoddard list? |
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MMW Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2012 Posts: 846 Location: northern NJ
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Stoddard list is pretty accurate. I believe most late year cars were labeled as the next model year. I forget the changeover month though. Also sometimes when a car didn't sell at the end of the year the paperwork could of been changed to the next model year by the dealer. _________________ Mic
1959 356 coupe
Missing the original engine 72488
Update - third pc. found!
Now just need the case halves.
1965 fenderless beetle |
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Steve Heinrichs Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Information concerning model year was noted in the earlly years in the production books. For example, some built later in 1956 were noted as having 1957 data plates----I assume these cars had '57 mods.
I do not know as to 1964/65.
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Steve Heinrichs Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say 1965. There is a 1317xx car in the new book noted as 12-64 build.
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mr white Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2005 Posts: 1193 Location: beautiful Oregon & Mohave County, AZ
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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What was the last two piece engine number known to exist? Based on case number is there a way to determine what is inside of any engine? Also the star after the engine number, does this indicate a sent back to the factory repaired motor? |
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FXMerchant Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2016 Posts: 2 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:33 am Post subject: 356 1500S Coupe |
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The chart is good, but there must be some discrepancies, for example I have a 1952/3 356 1500 S, chassis 12066 which has engine 40097 as per the COA.
This spans both 1953 and 1953 on the chart, which is a little confusing.
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Here's a snippet from Brett Johnson's chart, showing the model year delineations.
Model '51 is from mid-March 1951 through February of 1952.
Model '52 is from March 1952 through September of 1952.
Model '53 is from October 1952 through March of 1954.
The way I read the chart as far as 527 1500 engines is this: starting in October of '51 until November of '52 736 engines were produced and available to cars produced during that period and called Model 51 cars (including cabs like Drew's). Until November of '52 12 527 1500 engines were produced (30728-30750) that went into later cars, possibly depleting the stock until the 546 1500 became the base 1500. That's the only way I can make sense of the 12 527s that are listed in '52. It doesn't make sense to me that 736 engines were produced in 3 months in '51, while 12 were produced in 10 months in '52 (the other way to read the chart). Production of 527s and 546s overlapped by 3 months during '52. Based on the dates BJ provides, 527s continued to be produced for a month after Model 52 production ceased and were even available for early '53 model cars.
Here's a little timeline showing the relative production dates based on Brett Johnson's book:
My car is a similar example, in that it was produced in '54 but the engine serial falls in the range of numbers that began production in '53. To me, leaving out the model year info on the Stoddard chart really confuses things. Time was a continuum
Just my reading of the chart, though....certainly could be wrong! The COA/Kardex is the final arbiter. |
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Jacks Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2006 Posts: 2347 Location: San Clemente, Ca.
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:35 am Post subject: Re: 356 1500S Coupe |
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FXMerchant wrote: |
This spans both 1953 and 1953 on the chart, which is a little confusing.
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Huh??? _________________ Jack Staggs
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