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oasis Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2002 Posts: 2168
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:28 am Post subject: Windshield for 412 |
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I am guessing it is impossible to find a new windshield for a '73 412 here in the states. If I am wrong, please enlighten me.
How tricky is extracting a good used one from a donor 412, then reinstalling it into the intended 412? What does one do about the glass molding if the first part is doable enough? _________________ Now: 2003 New Beetle Turbo S / 1990 Single Cab Transporter / 2014 Tiguan R-Line 4motion / 2013 Tiguan S / 2002 Golf GLS TDI
Past: 1974 Thing Acapulco / 2009 Eos Komfort / 1997 Jetta GT / 2002 Cabrio GLX / 2002 Passat GLS / 1971 Super Beetle / 1993 EuroVan MV Westfalia / 1981 Pickup LX / 1985 Vanagon / 1986 Jetta GLI |
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bb412 Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2004 Posts: 300 Location: canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:18 pm Post subject: windshield |
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,, you d,t can save all the parts,,you have need to do a choice,, for me i prefair to scrap the glass seal for to save the chrome molding and the glass,, if you want to see that look my pict,, galllery,, |
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19super73 Hardcore Stock Nazi
Joined: October 18, 2007 Posts: 4351 Location: Cité Soleil
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ubercrap Samba Moderator
Joined: July 01, 2004 Posts: 1060 Location: Ridley Park, PA
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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NOS windshields used to pop up quite a bit but they are getting rarer. _________________ '74 412 wagon
(2) '74 412 2dr. sedan
'73 412 2dr. sedan |
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19super73 Hardcore Stock Nazi
Joined: October 18, 2007 Posts: 4351 Location: Cité Soleil
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17970 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Tram put a used windshield with my original chrome trim in my square! He does cut the old rubber and use a different rubber for the installation. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
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oasis Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2002 Posts: 2168
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm, sounds dicey. I'll have a chat with the shop who installed the rear glass on my '71 Super.
There's a four-door in the ads that has been begging my attention but that windshield has kept me from even inquiring about it. Being screwed is not on my to-do list. _________________ Now: 2003 New Beetle Turbo S / 1990 Single Cab Transporter / 2014 Tiguan R-Line 4motion / 2013 Tiguan S / 2002 Golf GLS TDI
Past: 1974 Thing Acapulco / 2009 Eos Komfort / 1997 Jetta GT / 2002 Cabrio GLX / 2002 Passat GLS / 1971 Super Beetle / 1993 EuroVan MV Westfalia / 1981 Pickup LX / 1985 Vanagon / 1986 Jetta GLI |
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19super73 Hardcore Stock Nazi
Joined: October 18, 2007 Posts: 4351 Location: Cité Soleil
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:31 am Post subject: |
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oasis wrote: |
Hmmm, sounds dicey. I'll have a chat with the shop who installed the rear glass on my '71 Super.
There's a four-door in the ads that has been begging my attention but that windshield has kept me from even inquiring about it. Being screwed is not on my to-do list. |
The one in Miami with the busted windshield?
Yup, I bought a car that had been a working project until the windshield had a hole put through it. After searching for 3 years for a replacement, they gave up and sold me the car as parts. Not that good glass would have helped the car much. The front of it was holier than the Pope. _________________ 1970 Campmobile [url=https://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-47260.png]Click to view image[/URL]
1970 Fastback 1600 TL
1971 Doka [url=https://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-14845.png]Click to view image[/URL]
1973 Super Beetle
1973 Westfalia [url=https://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-31892.png]Click to view image[/URL]
1974 412 Variant
1975 La Grande Bug
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kirk knighton Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2005 Posts: 282 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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I have two NOS windshields still in the shipping crate. I live in the Seattle area; I think you would need to get it in-person, since I can't imagine how one could be shipped. Probably cost a fortune and no guarantee they wouldn't break it to pieces. |
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bb412 Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2004 Posts: 300 Location: canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:27 am Post subject: winshield |
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yes KIRK,, that cost a fortune the shipping, i know that by experience,,plus no guarantee for the windshield for the door and side glass no problem |
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oasis Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2002 Posts: 2168
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:11 am Post subject: |
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The Florida car has disappeared from the ads. Still, good info for future reference. Thanks, all. _________________ Now: 2003 New Beetle Turbo S / 1990 Single Cab Transporter / 2014 Tiguan R-Line 4motion / 2013 Tiguan S / 2002 Golf GLS TDI
Past: 1974 Thing Acapulco / 2009 Eos Komfort / 1997 Jetta GT / 2002 Cabrio GLX / 2002 Passat GLS / 1971 Super Beetle / 1993 EuroVan MV Westfalia / 1981 Pickup LX / 1985 Vanagon / 1986 Jetta GLI |
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nodrenim Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2006 Posts: 843 Location: Dobson, North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have a Safelite dealer-installer in your area. I had to have the windshield replaced in my bay window and they had 2 in stock. The guy told me they usually have any thing you need. I know I am not near you, but I felt compelled to let you know. Peace and Good Luck! |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21520 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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nodrenim wrote: |
Do you have a Safelite dealer-installer in your area. I had to have the windshield replaced in my bay window and they had 2 in stock. The guy told me they usually have any thing you need. I know I am not near you, but I felt compelled to let you know. Peace and Good Luck! |
Bay window windshields and rubber are easy....they still make them. Type 4 windshields. ....not so easy. Its always worth it to ask.....but over the years I have asked about a hundred. Ray |
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bb412 Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2004 Posts: 300 Location: canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:05 am Post subject: windshield for 412 |
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hi,,are you living very farr of,,,piedmond in s,c,, you can buy one for 125.$ |
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titan3c Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2012 Posts: 568 Location: Coweta, Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:59 am Post subject: Windshield |
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Just noticed a ad that new windshields are available in Kimberton, Pa, but he won't ship. Must be pick-up only. |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21520 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield |
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titan3c wrote: |
Just noticed a ad that new windshields are available in Kimberton, Pa, but he won't ship. Must be pick-up only. |
Can you post a link to the ad?....I will be within 1 hour of Kimberton in a week. Ray |
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titan3c Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2012 Posts: 568 Location: Coweta, Oklahoma
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:03 pm Post subject: windshield 411/412 |
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He is on samba Classifieds under topic windshield. Where do you live? |
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titan3c Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2012 Posts: 568 Location: Coweta, Oklahoma
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I see your in Iowa. Was hoping you were a little closer to me in Okla. I noticed your earlier posting on the type 4 suspension-----interesting information not to be taken lightly. I have replaced my 411 idler bushing(recently), and the front struts on mine were replaced way back in the late 70's(mine is a 71, and I'm the original owner). Question: Would the replacing of the struts then, at a VW dealer, possibly cleared up any of the problems you mentioned? BTW I worked and lived for awhile in your neighborhood some years back. I was the GM at the Adventureland Inn in Altoona. The owner I think was Jack Kantz |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21520 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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titan3c wrote: |
Ok I see your in Iowa. Was hoping you were a little closer to me in Okla. I noticed your earlier posting on the type 4 suspension-----interesting information not to be taken lightly. I have replaced my 411 idler bushing(recently), and the front struts on mine were replaced way back in the late 70's(mine is a 71, and I'm the original owner). Question: Would the replacing of the struts then, at a VW dealer, possibly cleared up any of the problems you mentioned? BTW I worked and lived for awhile in your neighborhood some years back. I was the GM at the Adventureland Inn in Altoona. The owner I think was Jack Kantz |
I was in OKC a week ago. Went to high school in Choctaw....went to OU. Im in okc quite 9ften. My parents are there. I will be foad tripping fo Philly next week.
The good thing about dealer installed struts is that outside of the top o-ring that can be replaced.....there are no rubber parts inside to go bad with age. As long as it has low miles, the correct amount of original oil in it.....they will function for quite a while.
However. ...they have the same bushing issues if they are early strut bushing.....age is as bad as milage on the strut bushing....and they have poor rebound control valving. Keep an extra 75-100 lbs in the trunk and they function better.
They really are nicely built.......and I am assumimg they replaced them with factory oil struts....which do not use cartridges with seals. They used finely fitted and honed chrome piston rings.
If there are any significant oil stains around the top strut collars......they are on their way out.
The problem with recharging them....is you have to know the exact amount of oil.....too, much by even a half pint will blow out the top seal causing death to the strut fairly quickly. Too little and the lower circuit runs dry....same result.
Also the exact oil viscosity must be used.....slightly too thick or thin causes all the above problems. The fluid path in the factory struts is not as simple as a glance would suggest.
I tried a dozen different oils.....and many volume of oil charge back in the day.....never got it right. Ray |
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titan3c Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2012 Posts: 568 Location: Coweta, Oklahoma
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:39 am Post subject: |
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You certainly have the knowledge needed for these vehicles. I live in Coweta, near Tulsa. Let me know the next time your down this way I would like to show you my 411, take some advice. By the way my email is [email protected]. Would appreciate if you would contact me there. Bob |
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