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If I understand you correctly the answer is no . There is no seal where the metal fuel line connects to the injector . At the end of the metal fuel line is a flare capped off by a flare nut and it screws down on the metal nipple of the injector . I've owned three of the 80-81 Diesels and had the lines off many times but never encountered a leak there . Either tighten it up ( I assume you tried that ) or take it completely off and carefully clean the mating surfaces ( it's very high pressure so don't scratch anything ) . If that doesn't do it I guess ???? it's replacement time ( the line or the injector itself ).
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1964(sunroof)1967 & (2)1968 Beetles , 1968 Squareback , 1963 (23 window )Deluxe Sunroof Bus , 1969 Westphalia camper, 1974 Dasher , 1985 Vanagon , (2) 1981 Rabbit Diesels & a 1991 Jetta Diesel . |
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Old n' slow
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And please ....now that you own a VW Diesel call it "FUEL" not gas 
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Currently own : 1969 Beetle w/ 1600cc, Single Port, Solex 30 PICT 2, Dist. 113 905 205 T, stock exhaust.
All my daily drivers gone but not forgotten;
1964(sunroof)1967 & (2)1968 Beetles , 1968 Squareback , 1963 (23 window )Deluxe Sunroof Bus , 1969 Westphalia camper, 1974 Dasher , 1985 Vanagon , (2) 1981 Rabbit Diesels & a 1991 Jetta Diesel . |
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BDSBSS23
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| If I understand you correctly the answer is no . There is no seal where the metal fuel line connects to the injector . At the end of the metal fuel line is a flare capped off by a flare nut and it screws down on the metal nipple of the injector . I've owned three of the 80-81 Diesels and had the lines off many times but never encountered a leak there . Either tighten it up ( I assume you tried that ) or take it completely off and carefully clean the mating surfaces ( it's very high pressure so don't scratch anything ) . If that doesn't do it I guess ???? it's replacement time ( the line or the injector itself ). |
I did tighten it but I guess I'll take it off to clean it up. I would like to take care of that problem because it is hard to start in cold mornings so hopefully this will improve it.
"And please ....now that you own a VW Diesel call it "FUEL" not gas"
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Old n' slow
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It has been my experience that hard starting in the cold has been 1 or 2 glow plugs going bad ( or the relay ) and hard starting any other time is clogged injectors . I doubt it's related to a small fuel leak at the fitting ?
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Currently own : 1969 Beetle w/ 1600cc, Single Port, Solex 30 PICT 2, Dist. 113 905 205 T, stock exhaust.
All my daily drivers gone but not forgotten;
1964(sunroof)1967 & (2)1968 Beetles , 1968 Squareback , 1963 (23 window )Deluxe Sunroof Bus , 1969 Westphalia camper, 1974 Dasher , 1985 Vanagon , (2) 1981 Rabbit Diesels & a 1991 Jetta Diesel . |
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BDSBSS23
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crsmp5
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call bullshit.. how does test light on glow plugs with no copper bar work?
amp meter, ok 10-15amp each.. but stll a glow plug can fail and heat middle to tip and carry amps but still not work properly..
next.. metal line would make a mist when runing.. no issue in starting.. if it was issue in starting.. it would have constant misfire..
the rubber returns will leak..
the advance shaft will leak.. that drains pump an dmakes hard to start... betwen #1 and #2 so would drip off engine like lin leak.. |
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BDSBSS23
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BDSBSS23
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Ok some more question. I haven't really gotten going with fuel leak but I noticed few things.. Starting in the morning it would smoke really bad because I basically have to hold the pedal all the way to the floor to get it start up. Once warmed up it runs good. Other thing is when I'm driving it on the highway for a while it would once a while all the sudden rev up really high and lots of smoke coming out of the exhaust as if the throttle were stuck all the way and refuses to return to normal. I had to turn off the motor and pull over on the side of the road to calm the motor down so it won't overheat from over revving. Any advices? I know other source I can look at is vwdiesel.net but not letting me to register...
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| Wow, that sounds like you've got crankcase oil going back into the air filter. This is usually caused by blowby from a severely wore out engine. How old is this engine and how many miles are on it? |
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Old n' slow
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There was also a baffle that went under the valve cover over the camshaft . I don't think they were standard on the early diesels ( I bought mine back then for my two 81 diesels ) , they stop most of the oil from getting into the breather tube thereby preventing diesel run on . No matter what , it sounds like you will need a rebuild ( or just drop the pan in place pull the head , change the rod bearings and re ring it , most times this will last up to 30K before you need a complete rebuild ) before next winter or forget about starting it when it gets really cold .
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1964(sunroof)1967 & (2)1968 Beetles , 1968 Squareback , 1963 (23 window )Deluxe Sunroof Bus , 1969 Westphalia camper, 1974 Dasher , 1985 Vanagon , (2) 1981 Rabbit Diesels & a 1991 Jetta Diesel . |
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Old n' slow
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All depends on your budget , thousands to go the rebuilt route , maybe a couple hundred to go the simple rebuild. www.partsplaceinc.com is a good place to start . When money was tight I got 30,000 additional miles out of a really worn diesel before it started to burn oil again. Remove the head , raise up the front & drop the oil pan in place,pull the pistons out, re ring (check rod bearings ). Plus new head gasket and while your at it new belt and tensioner. One day of work and not too much money.
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1964(sunroof)1967 & (2)1968 Beetles , 1968 Squareback , 1963 (23 window )Deluxe Sunroof Bus , 1969 Westphalia camper, 1974 Dasher , 1985 Vanagon , (2) 1981 Rabbit Diesels & a 1991 Jetta Diesel . |
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