Start button... 1960 Bug?

Middle child · Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:14 pm Post subject: Start button... 1960 Bug?

I just picked up another 1960 bug and I had a key made but there's no detent to engage the starter...?... just the two position on/off ... so what's up with that? I don't remember seeing a starter button a pushin starter button. I know some of the really old ones have them. So the locksmith screwed up or what? Any help would be appreciated.

Eric&Barb · Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:33 pm Post subject:

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61SNRF · Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:33 pm Post subject:

Perhaps it is normal?

On the early switches, they don't have the no-repeat feature like '61 up.

Pretty sure up to '60, you turn it to first click, then you have to push in on the key (it's under light spring tension) to get it to turn to the crank position.
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bluebus86 · Banned Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 11075

yeah, my 58 bug had a turn and push key switch, my 61 has a standard turn only switch
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wayne1230cars · Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:29 pm Post subject:

That is how my original SE switch on my '60 works. You have to push in on the key as you turn it from the on position to the start position and as already stated, it does not have the non-repeat feature that the 61 and on have.
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panicman · Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:39 pm Post subject:

Just chiming in with the rest... You have to press the key in a bit as you turn to engage the starter, otherwise, it hangs up.
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Middle child · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:28 am Post subject:

Thanks for the half dozen or so replies but no its a 2 position switch no pushing in does anything different and it's the screw in terminals that the 60's still had the terminal in the back closest to the mounting screw bracket is number 30 clockwise from there the next terminal is marked with a 50 clockwise from there over to the other side 15 / 54.

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wayne1230cars · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:35 am Post subject:

Agree. It may be somehow jammed. If you cannot get it freed up, here is an option. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1367287
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BWD · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:58 am Post subject:

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Middle child · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:06 am Post subject:

Falling just short of digging out a BFH and no amount of oiling or persuasion even talking to it could make it any more than a two position switch. I asked the locksmith and he checked it with an ohmeter or whatever and said that there's power there so anyway I'm headed back home in a couple days and I'll probably have a duh moment finding a start button...or I'll be ordering a new switch as was suggested. Thanks.

61SNRF · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:00 pm Post subject:

Middle child · Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:25 am Post subject:

That's what concerned me so I had the "lacksmith" check it out....I thought if it were a three position switch he could tell me..all he said was that there was power there...."there"? I mean for a switch that is over fifty years old everything unscrewed perfectly...I can't imagine the inside being so burnt up as to not move at all...but anything is possible. I'm an hour away from home, I'll do some more checking. Thanks.

Middle child · Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:18 pm Post subject:

Well you guys sure know your stuff I would never have believed that I could get that to move by pushing it in... But I did get it to work and move to that starter crank position but it doesn't spring back which is what I was expecting ...?... so there's something wrong in there ... who did you suggest sending it to? And the key does not fit the door I know someone asked if it fit the doors plural but it only has the lock on the drivers door so that was a trick question? I have a couple other cars like that that need keys I'll probably take them to the same locksmith very inexpensive to have done and we'll see how the other ones turn out. It kind of amazes me that I don't remember that because years ago back in the 70's I owned a '60 European model with working semaphores. I bought it for 75 bucks... fixed the brakes and sold it for 4 times what I paid... I was so proud of myself... Rolling Eyes

Eric&Barb · Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:28 pm Post subject:

If the key works in both door and ignition, it would be a matched pair quite possibly from the factory. If not matched, then one or both have been replaced....

Up to you if you want to have a matched set so you only need one key. If you do, then contacting one of the VW key dealers in the classifieds and get it done.
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Middle child · Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:42 pm Post subject:

Wow...if I wasn't at a loss for words before I am now....that key that I had made fit my other 1960 Bug perfectly. And the reason I didn't remember about pushing the key in is because you don't have to think about pushing it in ... the turning motion pulls it in.

Aussiebug · Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:01 pm Post subject:

If you want to match your ignition key to the doors, you can do it yourself.

This "type 3" site explains the process.

The ignition has more tumblers than the door so you match the doors to the ignition key, NOT the ignition to the door key.
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Middle child · Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:29 pm Post subject:

I went to that site and could not find anything but that's okay. I have one more 1960 bug to pick up in Nebraska ... what are the chances of that one having the same key as well... ? Probably not very likely.

fluxcap · Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:06 am Post subject:


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