ford tie rods for dunebuggy

terryw · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:56 am Post subject: ford tie rods for dunebuggy

Does anyone know a Ford year and model that uses the same tie rods that we use on a Dunebuggy so I could get them from a local auto parts store. Thank you

flashho · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:04 am Post subject:

You can buy tie rods in alum. Steel, chromemoly and ford ends from most vw off road suppliers. Check the ads here. Tie rods come in any length you need, L or R hand thread.
Hth

Sandbar Norm · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:20 pm Post subject:

I used these,
I went for the alum tie rods but the steel ones cost less.
The tie rod ends have a 7 deg taper.
Also these tie rod ends are larger than stock vw.
I don't think ford has a direct replacement tie rod for a vw (I could be wrong).
Norm

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/AFCO-30211-GM-Tie-Rod-End-LH-Thread,40953.html
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/AFCO-30212-GM-Tie-Rod-End-RH-Thread,40954.html
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Aluminum-Tie-Rod-Sleeve-3-4-Inch-Thread,2086.html
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Swedged-Steel-Tube-3-4-Inch-Thread,2091.html

terryw · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:59 pm Post subject:

Thank for the help. I have the aluminum ones now just need to replace the outers. Just thought they were actual Ford tie rods.

flashho · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:00 pm Post subject:

did you mean to post GM tie rod ends?

this might help also

http://www.sacoperformance.com/search.php?nobox=&a...=&pg=1

Sandbar Norm · Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:59 am Post subject:

flashho · Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:52 am Post subject:

That is good to know as I have a similar set up. Thanks!

Potatoe · Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:40 pm Post subject: Ford Tie Rods

Hi, what i have found is you can use an old 1964 FORD F250 Part # ES416L / ES416R (Left or Right) or #ES150L / ES150R

You can Crossrefernce to ACDelco and Raybestos Part Numbers.

Double check the different Thread Size, between 3/4 and 11/16, at your local auto parts store when you pick them up.

The ES416 is the 11/16 and the ES150's are 3/4

Or Buy Online for around 6-11$

other Vehicals that use these Tie Rod Ends are:

FORD COUNTRY SQUIRE (1955 - 1960)
FORD CRESTLINE9 (1954 )
FORD CUSTOM (1950 - 1951)
FORD CUSTOMLINE (1954 - 1956)
FORD DELUXE (1946 - 1948)
FORD ECONOLINE (1961 - 1963)
FORD F-100 (1953 - 1964)
FORD F-250 (1953 - 1964)
FORD F1 (1948 - 1952)
FORD F2 (1948 - 1952)
FORD F3 (1948 - 1952)
FORD F4 (1948 - 1952)
FORD FAIRLANE (1955 - 1960)
FORD GALAXIE (1960 )
FORD MAINLINE (1954 - 1956)
FORD P-100 (1965 - 1967)
FORD RANCH WAGON (1955 - 1960)
FORD STATION BUS (1962 - 1963)
FORD SUPER DELUXE (1946 - 1948)
INTERNATIONAL C100 (1961 - 1962)
INTERNATIONAL C1000 (1963 - 1964)
INTERNATIONAL C102 (1961 - 1962)
MERCURY MERCURY (1946 - 1948)

Dr OnHolliday · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:29 pm Post subject:

Hey Potatoe:

thanx for the informative post!
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joescoolcustoms · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: ford tie rods for dunebuggy

I did search and did not find a answer, so this thread looked to have the best info.

On the tie rods for a ford or international, or GM, does the right inner tie rod have a way to hook up a steering stabilizer? Or what do you do for a steering stabilizer?

My Fiberglass buggy will get driven a lot on the highway and a lot off road, and I will be running a 31 inch tall front tire.
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gunslingertom · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: ford tie rods for dunebuggy

Pretty sure GM tie rods have an eye cast into them for a stabilizer and ford needs a mount similar to this http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/R1717.html

jsturtlebuggy · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: ford tie rods for dunebuggy

A damper clamp was the most common way to use a steering damper with larger diameter 1in tie rods.
They were a piece of tubing slit so it fit loose over tie rod and to tighten it in place it had bosses welded on for a pinch bolt. To mount damper a 12mm bolt was welded to it.
I used Bus (type II) damper.
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earthquake · Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:18 am Post subject: Re: ford tie rods for dunebuggy

ES-150 tie rod ends are pretty big, I don't think I would ream a VW steering arm for one, I have used them as lower ball joints on a Datsun 510 before on custom lower control arms, they are very heavy duty.

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dustymojave · Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: ford tie rods for dunebuggy

I've been using them for decades. I prefer to have a gusset added around the outer circumference of the tie rod end eye on the steering arm and pitman arm.

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This is for 416s. Made of 1/4" cold rolled plate. I've never broken out an eye. I HAVE broken a tie rod end and have bent 1" x .250 wall 4130 rods into pretzels. Then used the same spindles and pitman arm for many years after.
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joescoolcustoms · Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: ford tie rods for dunebuggy

earthquake · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: ford tie rods for dunebuggy

dustymojave · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: ford tie rods for dunebuggy

That would have been cool. This one is flame cut.

The bolt hole was reamed out and the 12mm coarse thread 8.8 bolt replaced with a 1/2" fine thread Grade 8 bolt. Much stronger bolt. I've stretched the stock bolt and stripped the splines. Never had an issue with the 1/2" bolt. Be sure to use a fine thread, as the minimum cross section of the bolt is much larger than a coarse thread. The coarse threads cut deeper into the bolt. I reamed the bolt hole in the arm so the bolt is a snug slip fit. It won't fall in, you have to push it into the hole.
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