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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:09 am    Post subject: VIN mystery Reply with quote

Hi everybody
I've just now joined the samba community in my search for help for this type 2 pick up i just found. It seems to have fallen out of the reg. system here in sweden, and i would really appreciate a little help with decoding the VIN plate on it, it's located behind the drivers seat and looks like this:
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What i'm looking for is the chassi/VIN number for this vehicle, but i have no idea how to read the plate. Also if anyone know how to see whitch year it's made i would be very greatful. As i said i'm new here, so i hope i'm not posting this question in the wrong place here. If i am, i appologize.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That by the way is NOT the VIN plate.
It is the m-code plate, meaning it is the plate listing the options the vehicle came with, along with date of manufacturing, colour, and type.

The VIN plate should be on the bulkhead near the door, behind the seat.

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Model Type 2 (T2) mod. 261(0) :
- Single-cabin pick-up
- Luggage compartment door right
- LHD
Chassis number 269011040
Serial number 011 040
Modelyear 1969
Planned production date August 26 ,1968
Type of engine Type 1 (B0) - 1584cc, 37 kW (50 bhp DIN)
Type of transmission Manual 4-speed gearbox
Paint color
L512 - Velvet Green
Interior color (doorpanels and seats) 51 - Dark Beige Leatherette

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy That's absolutely amazing! I am so greatful for your help, lightice. You solved my little mystery in just a few minutes, incredible.
Now i can proceed with the swedish authorities to see if it's possible to register the pickup again. I haven't been able to do anything without knowing the chassi number. Thank you so much for your help, it's greatly appreciated!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

truckswede wrote:
Very Happy That's absolutely amazing! I am so greatful for your help, lightice. You solved my little mystery in just a few minutes, incredible.
Now i can proceed with the swedish authorities to see if it's possible to register the pickup again. I haven't been able to do anything without knowing the chassi number. Thank you so much for your help, it's greatly appreciated!
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VIN number should be also visible inside the engine bay.

Second diagram.

Have a flashlight ready, stick your head into the engine bay, look at the right of the engine, left side of the battery, it will be stamped into the metal.

The chassis number = vin number
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

truckswede put up some more pictures when you can. Sounds like a cool truck Cool Good luck on registration!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for the replys!
I found the pickup just 4 days ago and only 15 min. travel from my home! I must have driven the road passing it a thousand times over the years, and never noticed it until now. It's been standing there among a lot of small trees all this time. I managed to track down the last known owner of it, and he told me it's been sitting there since 1988! He had totally forgotten about it, and the registration papers for it were long gone. I told him i was interested in buying it and restoring it and asked him if he would consider selling it to me.
He just looked at me and shaked his head, and told me the papers for it were gone, and if i was seriously considering rescuing it, i could have it for free!
Woo-hoo! Cheap is good, but free is even better!
So, one of my friends have a lot of heavy machinery, and we are getting it home to my place tomorrow. I will try to remember to bring the camera!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't beat a deal like that, if you plan on dragging it out of where it's been sitting put the strap around the suspension beam (don't crush the steering damper), you can't pull on the bumper and if it's rusty don't trust the tow hooks either.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
Can't beat a deal like that, if you plan on dragging it out of where it's been sitting put the strap around the suspension beam (don't crush the steering damper), you can't pull on the bumper and if it's rusty don't trust the tow hooks either.


Busdaddy, on the same topic of moving a bus that's been sitting.

I need to move one that's sitting facing a wall, so I have to move it from the rear. How do I go about that? Attach the tow straps to the rear axle? Wise?

Or attach the straps to the front beams and thru the underside of the bus?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lightice wrote:
busdaddy wrote:
Can't beat a deal like that, if you plan on dragging it out of where it's been sitting put the strap around the suspension beam (don't crush the steering damper), you can't pull on the bumper and if it's rusty don't trust the tow hooks either.


Busdaddy, on the same topic of moving a bus that's been sitting.

I need to move one that's sitting facing a wall, so I have to move it from the rear. How do I go about that? Attach the tow straps to the rear axle? Wise?

Or attach the straps to the front beams and thru the underside of the bus?

You'll have a hard time damaging it if you put the strap around the rear torsion housing/tube, if you pull that out the bus likely isn't worth recovering anyways Surprised
If the bus is relatively solid with a couple of flat tires or a locked brake the tow hooks work fine, but if it's crispy and buried up to the axles it's safter to pull on something deep down in the structure and solid. I warned TruckSwede in case he's not aware just how flimsy VW bumpers are, I've seen some terrible messes made with "heavy equipment" during a field extraction and it seems many of those Scandanavian reigion forest finds are in the ground pretty deep and not all that solid bodywise, it'd be a shame to break it in half getting it out.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Well, it's home! It turned out to be much easier than i thought. I took a peek inside the luggage compartment on the right side and the rails seemed to be in very good condition, so in under them with the forks. Lifted carefully at first to see so nothing started to bend or make mysterious noises, but it came right up from the ground as if it didn't weigh anything.
No problems at all, i took a picture of the inside of the luggage compartment to show you guys how relatively fresh the rails looked.
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It really went smooth and easy, the hole shebang was done within 1 hour.
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I'll just post the photos here for you to look at.
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So, we took it directly down to my friends garage and set it down there, and there it will be sitting until i get the time to give it a proper pressure wash and get a better look at what i'm dealing with here.
That my friends, was the story of how i got my first type 2 VW.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations!, I see al lot of potential there.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, not bad for free!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love those colors!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys! Yes, i kind of like those colours too, even if it apparently was starting it's life velvet green. First impressions are: the front end/beam, (not sure what it's called on these vehicles) is obviously missing. So are the engine and transmission. No surprise, the previous owner told me that.
There is a giant bulk/dent in the roof, looks like kids sometime in the past climbed up and jumped on it. It seems to be a smooth dent though, so i'll try and just push it back out. The instrument panel has been removed from it's place, it's lying loose across the seats inside the pickup. The seats seems to be in fair condition considering the years it's been sitting. All of the glass is intact, and the rust on it is about what can be expected for a vehicle that's been standing outside in a field for 26 years.
We will see after the pressure wash, but it lookes like it can be saved.
I will start looking for where to get new body panels for it, i have no idea who makes them or what kind of panels are available. As i said, i've never owned one of these cars, so i'm looking forward to starting my learning period.
I'll try to finish my present project this spring, and take the pickup home to my garage and take a closer look at things.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For body panels, your best bet is http://www.klassicfab.com (in Colombia), but he does not have everything. Another good manufacturer is AutoCraft (in the UK, I think). Avoid the Dutch (?) Klokkerholm.

You also might find http://www.vwheritage.com and http://www.justkampers.com/ helpful. They are certainly closer to you.

Good luck with this! It looks like a great project. Keep us informed. Popcorn
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much jtauxe for those links! The only one of those i ever heard of are Klokkerholm, and as you pointed out, they don't have a very good reputation. They are based in Denmark but also have a warehouse here in Sweden. The project i'm struggling to finish in my garage right now, to free up some space for the pickup, is a -69 volvo 142. A couple of years ago i ordered some body panels for it from Klokkerholm, and that turned out to be a one time deal. Never again, i'll leave it at that.
Thanks again for your help, it's greatly appreciated!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all
As a newbie in the VW world, i have to look here for help again. Since my pickup is missing the front beam i have started looking for one to use on it.
Are they the same for bugs, pickups and buses, or are there differenses between them? Regarding applications, years of production i mean.
I have found one beam from a -66 beetle and one from a -71 bus.
Could i use one of those?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The beetle one won't even come close to fitting but a 71 bus beam is perfect, any type 2 beam from mid 1970-1979 will bolt in.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Excellent info right there, thanks busdaddy!
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