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AlienJohn Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2014 Posts: 253 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:14 pm Post subject: Why Lower a Beetle? |
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Why do so many people lower their beetles?
Do they drive better?
JB _________________ All Hail Snorkelstang !
72 Standard Beetle
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Chanbob Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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That is a question with a lot of answers. Some do it for the performance, some do it for the looks, some do it for both.
Same reason a person lowers anything, personal choice.
I lowered my Super because I like lowered cars, I like the look of a lowered Beetle and I love the fact that I get an upgrade in handling. |
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Juanito84 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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#1 Looks
#2 Aerodynamics
#3 Better handling due to lower center of gravity
#3 So they're closer to the ground in case they fall out or have a low bridge _________________ If a water cooled engine cools its water with air, isn't it just an overcomplicated air cooled engine?
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76935 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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#1 lower center of gravity give better handling. _________________ Glenn
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joeyk803c Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Why listen to rock music? Or Country? Why like DC comics?
Usually, its all just a matter of personal preference. |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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I let my Super Beetle stick way up in the front--in case I run into a hoard of zombies and need that extra bit of clearance as I tank-drive straight over them.
In reality, I leave it the way VW designed it. I haven't bottomed out yet--like in my wife's PT Cruiser that is too low in the front--so ... my bug's height works for me.
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oasis Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Lowering falls into two categories: (1) looks, (2) handling.
(1) All lowering affects looks.
(2) All lowering affects handling -- but not always in a good way. It depends if any time and care went into the combination of suspension, brakes, wheels and tires.
Slammed cars are for looks, and they handle like poo. Cars built for handling tend to look better to the customizer/owner but that is usually regarded as a secondary benefit.
Beetles and Super Beetles were never built for looks or handling by Volkswagen. They were meant to be inexpensive, efficient, reliable point-to-point vehicles with acceptable comfort. That said, that is what made them the perfect platform to change its looks or change its attributes. _________________ Now: 2003 New Beetle Turbo S / 1990 Single Cab Transporter / 2014 Tiguan R-Line 4motion / 2013 Tiguan S / 2002 Golf GLS TDI
Past: 1974 Thing Acapulco / 2009 Eos Komfort / 1997 Jetta GT / 2002 Cabrio GLX / 2002 Passat GLS / 1971 Super Beetle / 1993 EuroVan MV Westfalia / 1981 Pickup LX / 1985 Vanagon / 1986 Jetta GLI |
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DadsOld74 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Lowering the front looks nice sometimes, but we've got snow and bumpy roads around here. So, I like a little ground clearance and am leaving mine stock. I'm happy with the way it handles. _________________ --Brian ('74 standard bug)
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OLD VW NUT Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2011 Posts: 2776 Location: High Desert of Washington 98823
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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While I've never cared for the slammed look I do like a slightly lowered VW. I lowered a 72 SB - a recent build that was sold to make way for my current ride. With 13" wheels and lowering the front with new adjustable struts I think it has a great stance. The rear hasn't been touched - just allowed to let gravity slowly have its way. With new disc brakes at all four corners it stops much better than it goes!
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Juanito84 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Another reason for adjusting ride hight is that keeping the CV joints as flat as possible helps with fuel mileage. _________________ If a water cooled engine cools its water with air, isn't it just an overcomplicated air cooled engine? |
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Hyperspace Samba Member
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Joel Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:21 am Post subject: Re: Why Lower a Beetle? |
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AlienJohn wrote: |
Why do so many people lower their beetles?
Do they drive better?
JB |
Drive a stock height Beetle at more than 80mph and you'll understand why
Dropping the front a bit stops them trying to take flight. _________________ Quick little bug, you got a Porsche motor in that?
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AlienJohn Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2014 Posts: 253 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:19 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the replies.
I guess for my purposes there's no real benefit to lowering my Beetle.
I'm a bit of a purist and I like driving it just the way it is, and the way
it was when I got my first one about 45 years ago.
JB _________________ All Hail Snorkelstang !
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wuwei75 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2014 Posts: 264 Location: OKC
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Why Lower a Beetle? |
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Joel wrote: |
AlienJohn wrote: |
Why do so many people lower their beetles?
Do they drive better?
JB |
Drive a stock height Beetle at more than 80mph and you'll understand why
Dropping the front a bit stops them trying to take flight. |
after a scary-as-hell drive from Tulsa to OKC in 20 degree weather with sleet and 50mph gusts I seriously considered lowering my super. several times I could have sworn the front end lifted off the ground.... I had to pry my hands off the wheel when we pulled into the garage. _________________ 1974 Super Beetle (Jill)
1972 Fastback (Maude) |
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Busdriver79 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Super Beetles, more so than Standard Beetles, just look kinda goofy sitting up so high in the front...they always look like they're going uphill...the big gap between the tire and fender is way too much...lowering a Super Beetle just makes them look right. PS....and yes, they DO drive better at speed and in windy conditions ! |
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DadsOld74 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, if I drove my car over 70 more often, I might consider it more. But, the closest freeway is 90 miles away and I don't spend much time on it. It all depends on how you need to use your car. And, I agree. I like the idea that I'm getting a timeless sensation when I drive it. _________________ --Brian ('74 standard bug)
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Juanito84 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Personally I like the way my car is at its stock height. It's not so low that I get stuck in snow drifts or that I bottom out on bad, pot-hole covered roads. It's also not so tall that it fells like it's going to flip over on pavement or spin in circles on ice.
True, I can't go as fast as all the lowered sports cars on freeways. Nor can I cut though bad roads and terrain like tall sport utility vehicles.
But if I lowered it, then there would be a lot of places that I wouldn't be able to go to anymore. And if I raised it, then I would probably have to cut my highway driving speed even further.
If the day comes that every road that I need to use be well paved and well plowed when it snows, then, and only then, would I personally consider lowering my car. Until then it's not worth it to me. _________________ If a water cooled engine cools its water with air, isn't it just an overcomplicated air cooled engine? |
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Tinkeredbug Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:29 am Post subject: Re: Why Lower a Beetle? |
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Drive a stock height Beetle at more than 80mph and you'll understand why
They can go that fast? |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76935 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:48 am Post subject: Re: Why Lower a Beetle? |
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Tinkeredbug wrote: |
Drive a stock height Beetle at more than 80mph and you'll understand why
They can go that fast? |
Take a looks at the speedo and then the tach. The engine had plenty of lungs left.
Mine (left), stock (right) Both are 74 Standards.
_________________ Glenn
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Captain Jacques Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Mine's at stock height, but I drop a 60 lb. iron plate in the trunk if I'm going any distance on the Interstate. I can still cruise at my usual 75 mph, but it makes a world of difference in tracking. _________________ Safe Sex: The Next Best Thing To Being There.
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